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Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

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Post by nrbafna »

SkyMarshal wrote: post #114
fingerprinter wrote: post #16

I've had it installed on my main machine since late December. There were some rough patches as things were landing during the beta period, but right now this is easily the best desktop I've ever used. My workflow adapted to some of the additions in Unity so quickly that it was absurd. At this point I could never go back to something without Super+#, Super+w, Super+s and the other keybindings found here: http://askubu…

>Just be sure to install compizconfigSettingsManager from the software center That's great to hear, I had just assumed Compiz wouldn't be available on Unity. I don't think I could live without Compiz Grid and Compiz Negative. Edit: I see Unity is actually built with Compiz. Somehow I missed that on the Ubuntu Unity website way back when I started reading about it to evaluate it.

CompizGrid has been made default with edge bindings. Behaves much more like Aero Snap now.

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

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Post by sciurus »

SkyMarshal wrote: post #114
fingerprinter wrote: post #16

I've had it installed on my main machine since late December. There were some rough patches as things were landing during the beta period, but right now this is easily the best desktop I've ever used. My workflow adapted to some of the additions in Unity so quickly that it was absurd. At this point I could never go back to something without Super+#, Super+w, Super+s and the other keybindings found here: http://askubu…

>Just be sure to install compizconfigSettingsManager from the software center That's great to hear, I had just assumed Compiz wouldn't be available on Unity. I don't think I could live without Compiz Grid and Compiz Negative. Edit: I see Unity is actually built with Compiz. Somehow I missed that on the Ubuntu Unity website way back when I started reading about it to evaluate it.

Unity is a plugin for compiz and relies on other parts of compiz for some of its functionality.

https://lwn.net/Articles/430686/

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

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Post by SoftwareMaven »

krat0sprakhar wrote: post #113

Ok... this seems pretty much out of place but I dont suppose I can get a better answer anywhere else, so here it goes. I'm a student in India and in a dilemma about buying a Mac or buying a windows machine (dual booting with Ubuntu 11.04 ). At about 3/4th the price of a Mac I can purchase a more powerful windows laptop and boot up Ubuntu ( and thus avoid windows altogether ). I need a workstation for Ruby on Rails/ N…

Preface: I develop on a Mac.

There is no easy way to answer this question. You can definitely get a more powerful PC for the price. With the Mac, you are buying some brand, some better construction, and a lot of better customer service. You are also buying OS X, which may or may not be attractive.

I used Linux for many years as a primary development machine, and it was great. Ubuntu is doing a good job solving the "there is no good desktop for Linux" that was pretty true five years ago.

That said, I prefer my Mac because I get almost the same ability to play at the command line (I spend most of my day in Emacs right now, including running my shells there), but I also get a refined experience when I'm interacting with applications outside of development (e.g. Garage Band, Pages, Keynote, etc).

In the end, I didn't switch for development, I switched for all the time I use my laptop when I'm not developing. For me, it was worth it, but YMMV.

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

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Post by minhajuddin »

krat0sprakhar wrote: post #113

Ok... this seems pretty much out of place but I dont suppose I can get a better answer anywhere else, so here it goes. I'm a student in India and in a dilemma about buying a Mac or buying a windows machine (dual booting with Ubuntu 11.04 ). At about 3/4th the price of a Mac I can purchase a more powerful windows laptop and boot up Ubuntu ( and thus avoid windows altogether ). I need a workstation for Ruby on Rails/ N…

This is not the right place for your question. Anyway, you shouldn't buy a Mac. Ubuntu with gvim can be the most enjoyable environment for rails/node development.

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

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Post by krat0sprakhar »

minhajuddin wrote: post #124
krat0sprakhar wrote: post #113

Ok... this seems pretty much out of place but I dont suppose I can get a better answer anywhere else, so here it goes. I'm a student in India and in a dilemma about buying a Mac or buying a windows machine (dual booting with Ubuntu 11.04 ). At about 3/4th the price of a Mac I can purchase a more powerful windows laptop and boot up Ubuntu ( and thus avoid windows altogether ). I need a workstation for Ruby on Rails/ N…

This is not the right place for your question. Anyway, you shouldn't buy a Mac. Ubuntu with gvim can be the most enjoyable environment for rails/node development.

Sorry for posting this. I'll keep that in mind next time. Thanks a lot for your suggestion.

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

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Post by regularfry »

kevindication wrote: post #87
regularfry wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not only are fresh Ubuntus a bit touchy, but upgrading in-place has bitten me badly in the past. It's always a clean-slate install for me now.

Apt is the only system I've ever felt fully comfortable with when doing upgrades. It was neither a problem under Debian nor Ubuntu. Do you have a tendency to make system changes that get in the way of the upgrades? (i.e., where has it gotten stuck for you before?)

I've never had a problem with a Debian in-place upgrade; I've got servers that have been upgraded from woody through to squeeze without a hitch. Where I've had problems with Ubuntu, it's been around the desktop, and udev/hotplug integration.

That being said, I've not given it a fair try for a few releases, so it's possible that in-place upgrades are better tested now, but I don't see the point of taking the risk. If it goes wrong, I'll end up reimaging anyway, so why waste the time?

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

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Post by sciurus »

malkia wrote: post #94

Heh, just installed ubuntu-10.10-dekstop-amd64 on my EverRunNote notebook. Now this came out :) Btw, there is no ubuntu-10.10-notebook-amd64 - probably because there are not many 64-bit notebooks?

You should install ubuntu-11.04-dekstop-amd64. There was never a notebook version of Ubuntu. For a while, they had a separate "netbook remix" that you could download and install, but that has been discontinued.

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

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Post by SkyMarshal »

krat0sprakhar wrote: post #113

Ok... this seems pretty much out of place but I dont suppose I can get a better answer anywhere else, so here it goes. I'm a student in India and in a dilemma about buying a Mac or buying a windows machine (dual booting with Ubuntu 11.04 ). At about 3/4th the price of a Mac I can purchase a more powerful windows laptop and boot up Ubuntu ( and thus avoid windows altogether ). I need a workstation for Ruby on Rails/ N…

Get a Macbook Pro, dual install Ubuntu via Bootcamp, then run Windows in a VM in either OS (fine for testing, at least). That lets you learn OSX and build iPhone apps while still being able to use Linux as your primary OS if you desire.

I've been researching this setup the past few weeks, and it appears the only issue was that the linux gfx drivers for the HD3000 gpu (embedded in the i5/i7 Macbook Pro Sandy Bridge cpu's) were still alpha/beta quality, but apparently that's fixed in Ubuntu 11.04.

I'm still see-sawing though. My other option is to get a tricked out custom Sager with the latest Nvidia GTX 485 gpu and use it to start farming bitcoins (and perhaps learning CUDA). The embedded HD3000 gpu in Intel i5/i7 gets very good performance for an on-chip gpu (google for it), but is not in the same league as the 485 GTX.

http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np8150s1-clevo-p150hm-p-2981.ht...

iOS development vs bitcoin farming and CUDA is the tradeoff, still thinking that through.

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

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Post by rfugger »

huherto wrote: post #102
MatthewPhillips wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It isn't that sleep works reliable on OSX, it's that sleep works reliably on a Mac . You see, when you buy a Mac you know every feature (including sleep) has been tested thoroughly. When you decide to install an OS on a computer you already own, you put the onus to test on yourself . I don't understand why people continue to make this unfair comparison. If you want a linux computer where sleep just works, by a preins…

That makes a lot of sense. Are there any major PC manufacturers that ship with Ubuntu? I imagine the day you go to Sams and buy an Ubuntu system will be a big milestone for Linux.

Dell did ship Ubuntu awhile back. Not sure if they still do.

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

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Post by nateberkopec »

Garbage wrote: post #4

A short list of whats new in Ubuntu 11.04 - http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/whats-new And features - http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/features

Man, Ubuntu's changed a lot since I used it last (8.0 days). They've taken a lot of UI cues from the mobile space (app stores, launchers) and adapted it to the desktop.
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