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Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by Traster » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 6:06 PM UTC

chki wrote: post #49

Very impressive technology: With those 4GB per second download speeds I can use up my entire month of data in 250 milliseconds. On a more serious note: what technology advancements will there be in the next 10-20 years that actually make 5G technology useful?

There was a lot of talk about how the number of sensors on autonomous vehicles meant many gigabytes of data per minute would be produced and transmitted by 5G back to servers to help train the systems. I'm not sure if I actually believe that, but that's certainly what people were claiming.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by macintux » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 6:07 PM UTC

paul7986 wrote: post #23

whoisburbansky wrote: post #6

Is 5G rollout in the US really comprehensive enough at this point to deliver on any of the promises they're making about it at this event? [Edit: found this benchmark from a month ago: https://www.tomsguide.com/features/5g-vs-4g ] basically looks like Verizon delivers on the promised speeds, but it still isn't clear to me what the spatial distribution of the higher speeds looks like.

5G phone with no 5G to use and the carriers have been working on 5G for the past 3 to 5 years? Verizon just announced they are expanding today their 5g in three US cities... yet in reality there isn't much 5G now in those cities they mentioned. Pointless marketing by all!

I think the 3 cities are the 5g mmWave technology; Verizon’s general 5g coverage is much broader than that.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by SwiftyBug » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 6:07 PM UTC

chki wrote: post #91

arcticbull wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

5G is for the cell carriers not the customers. Towers can simultaneously transmit to a certain number of clients at a time, so if you can get latency down and bandwidth up, you can service effectively more clients in the same period of time. With that said clients benefit too since they can shut down their power-sucking radios sooner. Think of it like turbo boost for CPUs: it's all about racing to get the link to sle…

Thanks, that sounds very useful indeed! I had only heard about impressive download and upload speeds so far but this makes a lot of sense.

5G also enables internet of things to finally happen.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by izacus » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 6:07 PM UTC

chki wrote: post #49

Very impressive technology: With those 4GB per second download speeds I can use up my entire month of data in 250 milliseconds. On a more serious note: what technology advancements will there be in the next 10-20 years that actually make 5G technology useful?

The theory here is nice, but who here on HN does actually get good unthrottled speeds on 4G now? Will carriers just magically stop throttling 5G after they sell it?

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by DonaldPShimoda » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 6:08 PM UTC

mttjj wrote: post #5

jblakey wrote: post #2

I really wish the Apple presenters would stop waving their arms... since I noticed they were doing it, I can't stop seeing it:)

Wait until you notice that everyone's Apple Watch is set to 10:09.

For context: watchmakers have often used 10:10 for marketing materials because it's symmetrical and it doesn't obscure the brand logo, which usually goes below the 12 position. Apple uses 10:09 probably because they want to be "ahead" of everybody else.

Similarly, iPhones are all set to 9:41 in marketing materials because that's the approximate time Steve Jobs introduced the first iPhone back in 2007.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by briandear » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 6:08 PM UTC

amrrs wrote: post #35

Is this the first iPhone launch without Phil Schiller (in a while)? Looks like individual experts have taken over each segment of iPhone (from Phil Schiller). Still I miss him!

Joz is the new Phil.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by ehsankia » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 6:08 PM UTC

janhenr wrote: post #66

The League of Legends x Apple announcement is bigger than people might think. I 100 % believe that this is the start of a massive shift from pc/console to mobile which we have seen before in China. In fact, it is clear from this announcement that iPhone IS considered a console now for Riot. Huge stuff.

Well they couldn't tout Fortnite so they have to now focus on another big game :)

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by DangerousPie » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 6:09 PM UTC

aviraldg wrote: post #69

There are two reasons I haven't switched over from Android. I wish Apple would try and fix them: * The lack of a way to move Whatsapp messages between platforms. (They'd just need to allow Whatsapp to use Google Drive for backup on iOS) * The lack of (physical) dual-SIM.

The first one sounds more like a WhatsApp issue than an Apple issue, doesn't it?

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by nikanj » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 6:09 PM UTC

mikkelam wrote: post #57

chki wrote: post #49

Very impressive technology: With those 4GB per second download speeds I can use up my entire month of data in 250 milliseconds. On a more serious note: what technology advancements will there be in the next 10-20 years that actually make 5G technology useful?

Arguments like these have been argued since dial up :) Probably longer. Don't worry, it won't be a problem for consumers

Mostly it's only a problem for North American consumers. Customers in the EU and Asia get true unlimited data for a pittance.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by ghaff » Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 6:09 PM UTC

kossTKR wrote: post #85

"The iPhone mini fits in the palm of you hand" lol. It's interesting that a reasonably sized phone is now a selling point in itself. In general i like keeping my devices for as long as possible - so when i jumped from the iPhone 6 to the iPhone 10, i was surprised to learn that the phone was hard to use with one hand now, extremely slippery and way, way heavier than my iphone 6. The mini seems like a good size for me…

I've liked the iPhone X size but I do have big hands. I also find that I certainly feel more secure holding with a case with rubberized edges. Using it in one hand is sort of important to me. In normal times I often have a phone in one hand and food/beverage in another at events. The Plus sizes have always felt a bit too large to me.

I would have upgraded this year normally. With travel mostly shut down for a while though, I may end waiting another year. I don't need an upgrade for mostly using around the house.