Is there a way to use this without the remote? The microphone is a dealbreaker.
Chromecast with Google TV
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#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't understand why this comment was downvoted. This is priced the way it is because the profit isn't in the hardware, it's in the viewer data. It's very cheap only if you set the value of your privacy to some very low number.
Anecdotally, techies are tiring of vague statements about privacy and 'you're the product', especially about Google. If theres a tangible cost beyond enabling ad targeting, people are still amenable (this has always been true for the general populace, Google has a more trustworthy image than Apple! Imagine that)
Why else would Google be producing hardware and selling it so cheaply if not to monetize usage data? Is there any world where the thin if any profit margin on Chromecast like devices are worth the revenue for a company the size of Google?
Roku - the leading company in the space - made $1.19 billion in revenue. I doubt anyone thinks that Google will approach Roku’s market share.
Roku is all about obtrusive advertising. Why would Google be any different? Do you think Google put a hard coded Netflix button on the remote out of the goodness of their heart?
> Google has a more trustworthy image than Apple! Imagine that
By what metric?
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/11/amazon-beats-apple-and-googl...
Re: Chromecast with Google TV
#123Is Google TV rebranded Android TV?
"Android TV" is literally any smart TV that runs Android with Google's blessing. Analogous with "Android phone". Chromecast with Google TV is more in line with Apple TV, FireTV, and the now discontinued Nexus TV.
I'm totally confused. So I have an Nvidia Shield that I bought a few years back.
How is this different?
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
With part of the cost of anything Google related is your privacy....
Google already knows so much about you, it doesn't really care about your TV watching habits. But maybe, they'd like to put highly targeted ads on your TV.
How would Google possibly know the types of shows I watch unless I am watching something on YouTube without a connection to my TV?
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google already knows so much about you, it doesn't really care about your TV watching habits. But maybe, they'd like to put highly targeted ads on your TV.
You don't think "likes action movies" or "watches romantic comedies" or "binge watches on weekends" are targeting segments that advertisers will pay for?
I think they can statistically analyze which category one belongs to among those categories.
Whether they can sell that capability to advertisers ? I don't know.
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#126Oh boy, let me tell you about my LG Google TV (55GA7900). It was awesome when it was brand new, I really enjoyed being able to install various apps (this is pre-roku days where it wasn't common place). After a couple years, they moved on to Android TV - but everything still worked and they still pushed out some occasional updates. Well, a few more years went by and it became EOL. LG pushed out one final update which…
It's why I like a dumb tv with seperate 'smarts' as an external attachment.
I generally keep my TV much longer than I keep a laptop/computer.
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#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
Anecdotally, techies are tiring of vague statements about privacy and 'you're the product', especially about Google. If theres a tangible cost beyond enabling ad targeting, people are still amenable (this has always been true for the general populace, Google has a more trustworthy image than Apple! Imagine that)
I think you're right about the attitude among techies - especially those around San Francisco - and I think that's part of the reason why our reputation is in decline. A lot of America sees us as a bunch of creeps spying on everything they do and they aren't wrong about that. Video records are a special class of data covered by the Video Privacy Protection Act. The tangible cost is the risk that your viewing history…
And that law has no effect on Google. Google doesn’t sell data to advertisers. It sells access to you. Meaning they aren’t going to send advertisers a list of 20-35 year olds who like action movies. Advertisers are going to ask Google to target their advertisements to that demographic.
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#128I wonder if you can turn off the full screen ad? I'd rather pick my own background image.
Exactly, I love having my own photos as a screensaver with my current Chromecast.
Also I noticed with the latest upgrade they added the date the photo was taken on the screen, a small but very cool improvement.
So I guess they are still upgrading and paying attention to older models ?
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#129I still have the Sony TV with built in Google TV, which is a brick now, because I can't update it anymore and google has abandoned it. Not doing the same mistake again.
is a charge back or small claims court an option when the goods are taken away from you long after purchase?
probably not worth the time it would take, but this kind of behavior from companies like google is just so toxic.
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#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is product success a useful metric for whether or not Google cancel services?
>> Is product success a useful metric for whether or not Google cancel services? Yes. Unsuccessful products get cancelled. The successful services get to stay but the customers get hit with "insane price hikes": https://www.geoawesomeness.com/developers-up-in-arms-over-go...
Except for Reader, Inbox, Cloud Print, the Nest API, Code, among many others I'm sure. It doesn't seem to matter whether they're successful or popular.