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Amnesty International India Halts Its Work in India Due to Government Reprisal

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Post by abtom »

ranjitcool1 wrote: post #81
nabla9 wrote: post #22

Hindu nationalism is just like any nationalism. It harms liberties. India: Arrests of Activists Politically Motivated https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/09/16/india-arrests-activists-... Under Modi, India's Press Not Free Anymore https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/world/asia/modi-india-pre... Critics of India’s Modi Government Face Sedition Charges https://thediplomat.com/2020/03/critics-of-indias-modi-gover... Is free sp…

Lol you need to stop reading biased media outlets. It’s our bad luck that none of the outlets are fair sided these days. Tune into an Indian news channel and validate your free press claims, you will see why nytimes is biased.

> Tune into an Indian news channel

Can you name a single unbiased channel?

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Post by malware7 »

sumedh wrote: post #65
swarnie_ wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A good chunk of the world has shifted that way since 2000, its actually baffling.

Maybe because social media helps demagogues spread their message?

Or is it that the monopoly of leftists over "the truth" is falling apart.

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Post by ravibhatt »

mmrezaie wrote: post #108
ravibhatt wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Journal of Democracy", Lancet and "Global Health Security Index" ---- I put them all in same category. Take whatever they say with a pinch of salt. The reports published by these orgs are prepared by some minimum wage worker which is then rubber stamped. If these institutes were so credible then US and UK would have not been impacted by COVID so badly. https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/11/countries-preparednes...…

In your provided link it points to Sweden as one of the best prepared countries for COVID. I am Swedish citizen. I am actually quiet surprised since it is still hard to get tested and test results take longer than two days (mine was a week but it was private and two months ago). Sweden in general is handling it well, but it would take a long time to understand who handled covid better.

The point is not about covid per se. The point is veracity of the institution that are cited all over the globe and orgs like amnesty.

These are created, based and are funded by western govts and people -- their point of view is already biased and often times willfully.

To highlight the point I used pandemic preparedness. Some one in his/her infinite wisdom comes up with an index with 10 parameters and then publishes it. The parameters are mostly influences by where that person lives and his own political leanings.

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Post by arjun1296 »

xrisk wrote: post #75
sbmthakur wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Supreme court had concluded that he arranged logistics and explosives for the attackers. I am not sure how they arrived at that conclusion without a "shred of evidence". https://scroll.in/article/805427/the-quick-guide-to-sar-gila...

I meant that all the evidence was circumstantial, which was admitted by even the court.

What do you mean by circumstantial?

He was a trained militant that dropped out of medical college who went to Pakistan for militancy training to wage ware against the sovereign state of India.

He had knowledge of the criminal conspiracy and arranged logistical support to terrorists.

I don't think he was innocent. But I don't think he deserved capital punishment.

The likes of Amnesty International was involved in proselytizing him as revolutionary hero and that was totally uncalled for.

No wonder they are being investigated.

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Post by djsumdog »

Karupan wrote: post #11

I saved this in my bookmarks a while back when reading up on this topic - the alleged Indian Intelligence Bureau (IB) report published in 2014 [0] [0] https://www.scribd.com/document/229493571/IB-Report-NGO

Ohio State is mentioned in this. Are there any other sources on their involvement?

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Post by malware7 »

throwaway4good wrote: post #118

Also surpression in Kashmir seems to have escalated over the past year with removal of local governance and blockade of internet access. It is not a good combination: Escalating human rights abuses, an economy in freefall, pandemic, border skirmishes with China, nationalism, crackdown on ethnic minorities ...

>> crackdown on ethnic minorities

Which minorities?

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Post by malware7 »

john4532452 wrote: post #120
pratik661 wrote: post #107

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Do you have any evidence to back your premise that Indian nationalists want to bring back the varna system? That’s an extraordinary claim that requires sourcing. From what I’ve seen it’s like any other nationalist movement.

Yes. The BJP government is backed by the RSS and most of the members of the BJP party including Modi is former member of RSS. RSS is a religious organization supporting the varna system.

Your opinion is not a valid source.

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Post by throwaway4good »

malware7 wrote: post #126
throwaway4good wrote: post #118

Also surpression in Kashmir seems to have escalated over the past year with removal of local governance and blockade of internet access. It is not a good combination: Escalating human rights abuses, an economy in freefall, pandemic, border skirmishes with China, nationalism, crackdown on ethnic minorities ...

>> crackdown on ethnic minorities Which minorities?

About 10% of India's population is muslim however in Kashmir they are a majority which I think is more or less the root cause of the Kashmir conflict.

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Post by anuraj »

slevin063 wrote: post #109
john4532452 wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Hindu nationalism is just like any nationalism. There is a fundamental difference Indian nationalism and other countries nationalism. Indian nationalism is all about bringing back the "varna system" which advocates stratification of society based on the birth and access to education is only allowed for the brahmins(priestly caste). This was the system implemented strictly before the Britishers arrived to India. No…

Not discounting the negative effects of the nationalism, but I don't think caste system is behind the current rise of nationalism. The prime minister himself is from the lower caste.

Modi himself added his trader community to backward caste for reaping benefits while he was running for CM of Gujarat using BJP govt at centre. Modh-Ghanchis are a middle caste which is a beneficiary of caste system and is by no means an OBC.
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