It's quite the leap going from brain rhythms mentioned in the research to anecdotal talk of audio drum rhythms isn't it? There's no mention of audio in that article. Brain rhythms in this context simply mean patterns of neural activity. this activity happens all the time, even in people who are profoundly deaf.
Yes. Why is everyone here talking about music? This has nothing to do with that.
Scientists say a mind-bending rhythm in the brain can act like ketamine
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#122It's quite the leap going from brain rhythms mentioned in the research to anecdotal talk of audio drum rhythms isn't it? There's no mention of audio in that article. Brain rhythms in this context simply mean patterns of neural activity. this activity happens all the time, even in people who are profoundly deaf.
Indeed, the induced rhythms in the article are stimulated by shining light on the brain of mice to induce certain cells to fire, and electrical impulses on a human subject. Nothing at all to do with music or the auditory system.
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This was a GPT3 response.
Is it? It's super convincing if it is. No weird artifacts or phrases.
> I'm a programmer, musician only by heart, but on Wednesdays instead of instruments I play the rhythmic game of tennis
Wednesdays? Instead? Wut?
We need a feature to not see comments except from whitelisted commenters. These are sad days for sites with comment sections... I mean commenters like the junkbot.
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#125I’ve studied Afro-Cuban percussion for 28 years now and I can tell you from experience there are some bata rhythms that definitely make the listener enter into a heavy trance state. Haitian vodun drumming is especially designed for generating trance and out of body experiences in its entirety. If you can find an old recording of Haitian voodoo drums give it a listen using good headphones with your eyes closed, and af…
Regarding music and the mind, the synchronisation/entrainment method of audio driving/sonic driving has been addressed in the book 'Music, Science and the Rhythmic Mind' by Berger and Turow. Research that looks at aligning not just the rate (tempo) of the music to brainwaves, but varieties of rhythm has been done by Jeff Strong, founder of Rhythmic Entrainment Intervention (some of his YouTube videos talk about specifics). Jeff has studies Vodou music AFAIK.
Regarding altering states of mind through meditation, Jeff Tarrent's NeuroMeditation Institute has some interesting work and regarding altering states with psychedelics, the work of Andrew Gallimore's (Alien Insect's) work is also very interesting. Andrew in his YouTube video series talks about how connections in the brain change when exposed to psychedelics - I would be interested to see correlation between the way 'trance' music (without drugs) and 'psychedelics' (drugs:) create these states.
Some of our work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFVzwZtmecc
https://tedor.bandcamp.com/album/shamanic-soundscape-level-t...
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It would be great if you could link to a recording that you think could induce this state, given that you’re an expert in this field! If I’m left to search on my own I’m not sure I’ll find the correct recording.
Try this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxboZrFcvRo& Give it your entire attention.
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+1 and why must it be an "old recording" - have modern Haitian voodoo drummers lost the way? Seems a bit set-up for shifting goalposts...
if you have perfection in a product, the only evolution possible is for it to become less perfect. People being people the best are not content with always doing the same thing, so they will experiment and move away, following other influences. The drumming may become great in other ways but not great in the way of inducing trance states the way it once way. Just my theory on why it might be that an old recording is…
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Rhythm IS music
Can certain music reliably create the 3/s firing of neurons in this specific area of the brain? I'm a musician, but I don't see why the answer is obviously a "yes".
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#129This would be a workable explanation for being able to "soul travel" while meditating. When I did the whole Trancendental Meditation thing back in the late 70's it was all about clearing your mind of everything except a repeating mantra. EEG's of people meditating show rhythmic brain activity typical of sleeping. If that is the case (and I'm not saying it is, just noting the potential path here) then it would suggest…
What is "soul travel"?
I've never accomplished this while meditating (and I'm not the type to experiment with drugs) but I did have this type of experience while volunteering as a test subject for a sensory deprivation experiment at UNLV. In that experience I got out of the tank (without opening it which was weird), walked out of the lab and got in my car (again by just sort of being outside of my car and then inside the car). I was thinking about how I could start the car without my keys when I realized I was completely naked and in that realization the experience stopped and I was back in the tank.
People are known to hallucinate in such tanks, it is expected, I found the experience very unlike dreaming and much more like I was more literally conscious the entire time.