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Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by cliverani »

ActorNightly wrote: post #95
cliverani wrote: post #39

Apple just took a huge swing at Peloton and at home fitness startups. Why cycle in place at home with a Peloton instructor, when you can cycle outside with a Fitness+ instructor? Why limit yourself to your stationary Peloton bike at home, when you can use a stationary bike anywhere? Apple can and probability will beat out Lulu Lemon's Mirror on price using motion capture on an AppleTV smartTV or Ipad. Only startup th…

>when you can cycle outside with a Fitness+ instructor Please don't do this. Its not safe.

It's just literally audio feedback telling to you go faster or slower based on your heart rate. It's no more dangerous than voice navigation while driving.

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Post by t-writescode »

ALurchyBeast wrote: post #81
t-writescode wrote: post #22

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Some people just want a heartrate and sleep monitor that lasts 5ish days. For them, there's a Fitbit.

Before jumping at Google/Fitbit train, take a look at Withings watches. Their Healthmate app is solid. In my experience much better than Fitbit, and it isnt trying to sell me on any premium services. I have a Steel HR & the battery life is measured in weeks.

If I end up not buying a new Apple Watch, I will look into it! My Fitbit broke recently and I'm on the market.

The EKG is ... really tempting, though - that's about the only thing that's pulling me toward the Apple Watch.

Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by dylan604 »

epicureanideal wrote: post #99
elliekelly wrote: post #85

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I wonder what that means for companies like Peloton. I can imagine an Apple Watch and a small "smart" bike trainer[1] would be infinitely more practical and affordable for most people and still allow Apple users to track all of the same metrics as Peloton. [1] Something like this, but with an odometer and WiFi: https://www.amazon.com/Goplus-Exercise-Trainers-Flywheel-Sta...

They could just buy Peloton. "Apple Peloton".

Or just Apple Bike+

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Post by mike_d »

antimatter15 wrote: post #67

So this must be why last week's updated "App Store Review Guidelines" explicitly excluded "one-to-many realtime experiences". Third party fitness apps need to fork over 30% to Apple, while they launch their own first party competitor. 3.1.3(d) Person-to-Person Experiences: If your app enables the purchase of realtime person-to-person experiences between two individuals (for example tutoring students, medical consulta…

In the age of COVID, this also includes plenty of far more profitable things like concerts, trade shows, online classes, etc.

Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by simias »

HumblyTossed wrote: post #30
sleavey wrote: post #4

What I dream of is a health monitor watch that's built from open hardware and gives me complete control over and ownership of my data. I don't trust any profit-driven company, even Apple, with such private information. EDIT: thanks to obenn, who pointed me towards [1]. Still in development, but looks promising. [1] https://www.pine64.org/pinetime/

I agree with you. But... Wow, people really dislike this. Is it just HN culture to not want something like this? I get it, I carry a phone and it tells the cloud all my secrets, blah blah. But fitness is health and I would just rather not send any of that to the cloud. Is that so hard to get?

This is an Apple-related story, it draws a different crowd in my experience. I think more generally these consumer electronic stories tend to have pretty uninteresting discussions on this website, probably because there's very little barrier to entry. Not really surprising to see that it quickly devolves to reddit-tier upvote/downvote battles.

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Post by fencepost »

reaperducer wrote: post #72
tw04 wrote: post #45

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Unless Apple is releasing a bike and treadmill I doubt Peloton has much to be concerned with. Half the draw is the fact the tread and bike are both extremely high quality and directly track what you're doing (distance, not just heart rate). I don't even think Apple currently has a compatible cadence sensor? Mirror... I never really understood that one in the first place but I'll assume the folks who love it love it p…

Unless Apple is releasing a bike and treadmill I doubt Peloton has much to be concerned with. But with the Apple product, you're not limited to bike and treadmill. It was demonstrated with all kinds of workout routines. And replacing a $1,000 Peloton with the far cheaper stationary bike of your choosing will be attractive to some people.

The people for whom that's attractive aren't Peloton's real target market anyway. If you're positioning as a luxury lifestyle brand you don't worry about the people building their own.

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Post by acwan93 »

wrycoder wrote: post #79
adrr wrote: post #68

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People cycle in place because it’s more convenient than going outside. Not everyone lives near bike trails where you can continuously cycle without having to worry about cars and traffic lights. Even on bike trails, speed is limited to 10mph so I don’t how you can do hiit workout and keep it below 10mph.

Think slush and wind.

And wildfires.

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Post by turdnagel »

jacobwilliamroy wrote: post #103
newscracker wrote: post #46

I like the idea of Apple Fitness+. That it provides an integrated experience with the watch and another device (iPhone/iPad/Apple TV) is exactly what I’ve been waiting for all these years! No need to create yet another online account on a service that may share (or sell or probably lose) my workout and health information. The workout recommendations are computed on-device, and the data stays on the devices (health da…

Do you like the idea of Apple owning the operating system you use, the computer it runs on, all the apps running on that operating system, the entire network stack, all of the network services, the gym you visit, the money you use, the school you attend, the church where you worship, the food that you buy, the place where you work, the hospital where you die? Can't you see where they're going with this?

I don’t think this comment should be downvoted because I think it’s worth addressing directly.

So, no. I don’t like that. Do you think Apple is going to start buying churches? Why?

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Post by gsumpster »

Someone1234 wrote: post #83
ilikehurdles wrote: post #41

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The $1000+ up front and $30 monthly is for the trainer product. You can subscribe to Peloton's (or Aaptiv's or any number of brands') workouts and BYODevice and pay in the neighborhood of $13/mo for the workouts. Fitness+ absolutely is encroaching on that subscription workout space, but a physical bike/treadmill and a watch are not competitors. If someone wants a stationary bike they're not going to be shopping for a…

But direct integration with sports equipment seems like it would be the next logical step on the radar for Apple. You'll be able to go on Amazon and buy [Bike/Treadmill/etc] with "Fitness+ Compatible" that streams wirelessly to your watch/phone. Then Peleton offers no value add. They're just a treadmill maker charging 250% of their competitors.

I don't think it's fair to ignore the instructor and class content of Peloton. I use mine because of the classes, I'm not sure I would use the bike if it weren't for the instructors and classes that I like.

Peloton did also just release a new bike that does work with Apple's GymKit too, so, I don't think it's just the metrics.

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