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Better in what sense? I want my order filled as quickly as possible.
It is better to give the on site drivers a number in a queue then to make them f5 spam some app.
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I think people in this thread are confusing "free market idealists" (usually libertarians) with conservatives/Republicans. A free market idealist has no problem with a free labor market that self-organizes into unions as long as the government doesn't mandate unionization. Conservatives and Republicans tend to advocate for big business and have therefore a natural antipathy towards organized labor.
I would also presume that in addition a `free market idealist` would also want to ensure that Unions aren't given any special status, and that employers could also come together to agree wages.
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> Companies can achieve great benefit by externalizing cost on society, but should they? Yes, indeed they should. But the government also needs to claim taxes from companies to pay for these benefits. This concept is not even new, heck this is how most of Europe works.
Last time I checked, USA did have corporate tax. Just like we got in Europe.
> some shoppers are paying software developers who have created bots — in the form of third-party apps — that run alongside the legitimate Instacart app and claim the best orders for clients Instacart is a real-time market. In real-time markets reaction time is paramount. "Cranking up pressure against app makers and banning violators when they find them" is swimming up a waterfall. The solution is in the market struc…
> Instagram should acquire the differentiated apps and integrate them into its routing.
Are they actually differentiated? My understand was they're just auto-grabbing jobs, maybe based on some parameters the shopper enters.
My problem with this, which is brought up in someone else's top-level comment here, is that there is an implicit contract when I use Instacart as a customer - that someone is starting to shop immediately (or as close to is practical). I have no interest in paying Instacart's pretty high fees and having my job sit in someone's queue for any non-trivial amount of time. If I wanted to do that I would just do grocery pickup instead of delivery. I'm honestly not sure how to reconcile these competing desires while still being fair to the shoppers, which I do want despite how that previous sentence may have come across.
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Free market idealists think the market can determine the minimum wage without government or organized labor enforcing higher wages.
Free market idealists also tend to be very against the natural way for workers to consolidate and leverage negotiation power: trade unions.
I’m a software developer who has been enthusiastic about technology pretty much my entire life, but lately I’ve started doubting that our current technological advances are even a net positive for humanity. Reading about things like this (and also about online ads, robocalls, tracking, spyware, ransomware, extortionware, massive environment-ravaging crypto-mining ops, state surveillance, “predictive policing”, fake n…
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The most commonly-mentioned example is "MurGee Auto Clicker" (a simple form clicker: https://www.murgee.com/auto-clicker/tutorial/) and miscellaneous Android form clickers.
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Free market idealists also tend to be very against the natural way for workers to consolidate and leverage negotiation power: trade unions.
Not exactly. We are against the way unions are implemented and make work not a free market. I'm not against your union so longs as I can decide not to join and still have equal work with you.
I'm curious why you would want to opt out of a union in the first place, since unions generally double workers' wages. I live in the right to work state of Idaho, which has some of the lowest wages in the country, especially for things like farm work. I realize that this is a bit of a straw man argument though, which doesn't touch your main point.
I'm having trouble thinking of a case where a union charges more in fees than it provides in additional wages, benefits and other protections. So I think my main point is that you are fixated on a motivation that doesn't exist. It's like being angry that you must pay for a stamp to mail something through the post office, even though that costs a fraction of what UPS or FedEx cost. You're free to work somewhere else or use those other services.
Maybe someone else can answer this better than I can. I really do want to understand why unions are so controversial, because I've only experienced the downside of not having them. Like when I was moving furniture 20 years ago and the warehouse charged $34/hr and only paid us $10/hr, even though we were doing all of the work. My feeling is that had we been unionized, we would have made at least $17/hr.
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Free market idealists also tend to be very against the natural way for workers to consolidate and leverage negotiation power: trade unions.
Not exactly. We are against the way unions are implemented and make work not a free market. I'm not against your union so longs as I can decide not to join and still have equal work with you.
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Not exactly. We are against the way unions are implemented and make work not a free market. I'm not against your union so longs as I can decide not to join and still have equal work with you.
What is a corporation but a union of capitalists? Why must only the owners be allowed to unite for better outcomes?
Well, there's a reason the politico-economic system is called “capitalism” and not “laborism” or “socialism”, and it's not because it is structured for the benefit of labor or society as a whole. Such labor rights as have been established were a small but important step away from pure capitalism, and advocates of capitalism naturally want to peel them back.