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H-1B: Government issues first-ever official estimate of visa population in U.S.

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Re: H-1B: Government issues first-ever official estimate of visa population in U.S.

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They definitely have all the data they need, verifiable many times over. No one wants to do the work to talk to all the different agencies involved to compile it.

It's unbelievable how much inefficiencies are created from this. I presume it's on purpose to make oversight more difficult.

If there were a pressing need for the exact figure, it would be more accessible. The fact that it isn't means there hasn't been a need for it yet.

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Exactly. They have the data, but they’d need to link it to a few other sources for it to be complete. The US, unlike Europe (at least in my experience) doesn’t check passports on the way out. They rely on flight manifests or information from Canadian authorities on who has exited.

> unlike Europe Unlike the Schengen zone, certainly, but some European countries also do not check passports on exit (the UK is a good example).

Bosnia just waived me on when I was crossing through from Croatia. Checking a whole buss must have seemed like too much effort

Re: H-1B: Government issues first-ever official estimate of visa population in U.S.

#123

End the H1B and other work restrictions. Let Americans hire foreigners freely, without fees and paperwork, without arbitrary limits, without inhumane processes that take years. Make America free again.

I wish borders and citizenship didn't really exist. Just pay taxes to your current locality. It should be as simple to travel, live, or work between any country and the U.S. as it is between any two U.S. states.

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I don't doubt the fact that an EB-1 visa could be awarded with a person with that background. I doubt about their alleged personal relationship with an adult entertainer. That guess is based on the fact that adult entertainers worthy of an EB-1 visa are a tiny, tiny fraction of the general population.

Not going to dox myself to prove it, sorry (actually it would be provable by doing some sleuthing over my posting history here, but I'm not going to point out exactly how either).

Fair enough. It is hard to get the true sentiment of a post. What I said was part skepticism, part humor. If your story is true, good for you.

I recommend you think lightly of posts like these. This is not a debate, and if it was, there's clearly nothing to win.

Re: H-1B: Government issues first-ever official estimate of visa population in U.S.

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This is a ridiculous statement. Intel, Facebook, Microsoft, Google, Apple were all founded by US Citizens.

Steve Jobs' biological father was an immigrant. So were Eduardo Saverin and Sergey Brin.

His biological father was not involved in his life and had no bearing on whom he became. That's like pointing out that the Night Stalker's father was an immigrant.

Re: H-1B: Government issues first-ever official estimate of visa population in U.S.

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Steve Jobs' biological father was an immigrant. So were Eduardo Saverin and Sergey Brin.

His biological father was not involved in his life and had no bearing on whom he became. That's like pointing out that the Night Stalker's father was an immigrant.

Steve Jobs wouldn't have existed in the first place without his biological father.

He certainly wouldn't have been born in the US, gotten adopted into the particular family that he was, and received the opportunities that he did had his bio father not emigrated.

I had to look up who the Night Stalker was, now I wish I hadn't. Not going to be able to sleep now :-/

Re: H-1B: Government issues first-ever official estimate of visa population in U.S.

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Literally everyone who lives in California came from somewhere else. Who gets to decide when the music stops forever, and everyone who found a seat gets to stay, and everyone else has to find somewhere else to live? I've been here 25 years now... Do I count? My son grew up here, does he count even though he's my son? I'm sure the Native Americans or the Spanish after them would love to chat about your ideas on immigr…

In your first post, you were arguing that immigration improves the place. Now you're arguing that we should allow immigration even if it doesn't. Huh. If the population is really sparse, immigration really does improve the society -- it allows for specialization, with supermarkets, karate studios, and the like. Then, as the population gets more dense, the marginal benefit of population growth, assuming random average…

There was zero "analysis" in that comment, it was 100% pure sarcasm, which sadly, went zipping by you apparently.

Re: H-1B: Government issues first-ever official estimate of visa population in U.S.

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H-1B1 is not the visa type for the best and brightest. That visa type is EB-1. H-1B is about skills in high demand not extraordinary ability. Many personal friends of mine are H-1B and they would not be even considered the best or brightest in their own household. Of course, you have to be somewhat smart to meet the basic requirements: bachelor's degree or equivalent. But that does not mean you are among the best .

I have a friend with an EB-1 visa. She's good ("alien of exceptional ability") at her job I suppose, which is being a porn actress. Somewhat hilariously it was rather easy for her to meet the criteria (international prizes, being highly paid compared to peers, commercial success, being published in media etc.).

With all due respect to adult actors, but the “Einstein visa” being given to a porn actress is hilarious.

Re: H-1B: Government issues first-ever official estimate of visa population in U.S.

#129
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I think you are missing the point that it's only a pain point for countries with a backlog, not ones without a backlog. 3-4 years in the grand scheme of things is not all that long for gaining PR of a different country.

Why should it take more than a couple of days?

The longest part of the process is the labor market test to ensure there are no willing, able and qualified American workers. This includes advertising the position in a number of different locations and channels for a set number of days and interviewing any American workers that apply.

Re: H-1B: Government issues first-ever official estimate of visa population in U.S.

#130
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End the H1B and other work restrictions. Let Americans hire foreigners freely, without fees and paperwork, without arbitrary limits, without inhumane processes that take years. Make America free again.

I wish borders and citizenship didn't really exist. Just pay taxes to your current locality. It should be as simple to travel, live, or work between any country and the U.S. as it is between any two U.S. states.

Make governments compete in a free market like companies. It's an interesting idea, and compelling on its face. But that leaves open the question of how a government could ever be expected to invest in it's people. The incentive for other countries would be to not invest as much in education of their own, since anyone could up and move to a country with lower taxes immediately once they finished school. Or they wouldn't invest in healthcare, since you could just "move" to a country that has healthcare, get treated, and then move back to your low-tax country immediately after.

I expect we'd end up with a system pretty similar to the one we have now, with each country demanding a certain "investment" from the prospective citizen before they be granted the benefits of citizenship (e.g. certain number of years spent there) or that they are bringing something valuable to the table (e.g. in-demand skills or qualifications).

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