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Re: Zettlr – FOSS markdown editor for personal knowledge management and publishing

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post #110

One feature I have yet to find in any Markdown editor is a simple "block" mover, which I describe here: https://twitter.com/jgthms/status/1225513837379641350 Underneath, the data structure would remain straightforward Markdown. So the data wouldn't be stored as separate blocks; the moving would act similarly to Sublime Text's "Swap Line Up/Down".

I added your tweet to Panicz's excellent twitter thread of structured editors, cheers! https://twitter.com/cellularmitosis/status/12791132604076851...

Re: Zettlr – FOSS markdown editor for personal knowledge management and publishing

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post #110

One feature I have yet to find in any Markdown editor is a simple "block" mover, which I describe here: https://twitter.com/jgthms/status/1225513837379641350 Underneath, the data structure would remain straightforward Markdown. So the data wouldn't be stored as separate blocks; the moving would act similarly to Sublime Text's "Swap Line Up/Down".

I wouldn't call notion.so a markdown editor, but it's very similar to one (understands the syntax) and the "block mover" concept is inherent in their UI.

Re: Zettlr – FOSS markdown editor for personal knowledge management and publishing

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do think that the area of knowledge management is very interesting and worthy of discussion. When it comes to tooling though, I've tried out a couple and I don't find anything superior to a folder full of markdown files + your favorite text editor (I use VSCode, but I don't think that's especially important). Systems like Zettelkasten are interesting to read about, but again, everyone's brain is different and for m…

A Zettelkasten-style system is just a bunch of files in a single folder, with lots of links between them. What makes these kinds of notes work is the purpose they are written for, and the links. Two people can have the exact same notes, but link and tag them completely differently, because each of them will have different goals and purposes.

So basically a personal Wiki for generation Z.

Re: Zettlr – FOSS markdown editor for personal knowledge management and publishing

#125

I'm really happy that the "knowledge base management" type of tools are getting a lot more attention these days. In my opinion, the more brains that look at this area, the better the whole ecosystem will get. I'll have to download this and give it a try, and compare it to my current workflow. (I use org-roam on Emacs. I'm not sure if people are sick of org-mode and Emacs being mentioned on HN? I worry about becoming…

I've just been using Google Docs. It's simple, searchable, and I can read/edit my notes while sitting on the can.

The only markup I use are: links, lists, bold/underline/strikeout, embedded images?

What am I missing?

Re: Zettlr – FOSS markdown editor for personal knowledge management and publishing

#126

Neuron is a new Zettelkasten project that shows a lot of promise. The developer is very active and responsive. I like that it is an editor-independent cli tool, with plugins currently for Vim and Emacs. https://neuron.zettel.page/ https://github.com/srid/neuron

Do you know if neuron will ever supports mobile?

Re: Zettlr – FOSS markdown editor for personal knowledge management and publishing

#127

Is it the generally-accepted practice to run an app like this in a network namespace or sandbox? How do I know it's not pilfering my research? I'd like to use a system like this for my work but I don't see how it can be trusted. I don't have the time to read the source. To be honest, I prefer a hosted solution because then I get a written contract about the privacy of my data.

Not getting your data stolen vs. being able to sue after the fact are two different concerns which are somewhat in conflict.

If you want to be able to sue, then yes go with a hosted solution with a written contract.

But if the priority is to not have your data stolen, handing your data over to a third party is a non-starter.

Re: Zettlr – FOSS markdown editor for personal knowledge management and publishing

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post #110

One feature I have yet to find in any Markdown editor is a simple "block" mover, which I describe here: https://twitter.com/jgthms/status/1225513837379641350 Underneath, the data structure would remain straightforward Markdown. So the data wouldn't be stored as separate blocks; the moving would act similarly to Sublime Text's "Swap Line Up/Down".

In VSCode anytime you have text selected you can alt+up/down to move the whole selection (or current line if no selection) up/down one line. I assume STs "swap line up/down" works the same. Is that different from your "block mover" idea? I mean, if I select the paragrap I want to move and use it it sounds similar, thought it'd happen one line at a time, and I understand you'd mean to move it "whole blocks" at a time.…

Yes, ST works like VSCode in that regard.

It works well with paragraphs and headings because they fit on one line (so 1 line = 1 block), but I'd like to be able to move whole multiline blocks, like lists, code blocks, and paragraphs that have line breaks.

Also, for the empty lines that separate blocks, I need to move them as well (or select them as part of the block).

But yes, the current feature is very close to what I'd like.

The other part of my tweet though (about being able to move between 2 columns or files) is trickier.

Re: Zettlr – FOSS markdown editor for personal knowledge management and publishing

#129
post #30

Could someone enlighten me what is the biggest advantage or this and similar tools over libreoffice writer? I've been using it extensively for years for technical documentation, have hundreds of bitrot-free documents, and am extensively using: * tables (2 or 3 columns depending on type, often using sort by column 1 or column 1+2 to keep relevant information grouped); * preset formatting for different styles (snippets…

I wasn't aware you could create links from one libreoffice writer document to another?

Re: Zettlr – FOSS markdown editor for personal knowledge management and publishing

#130

I'm really happy that the "knowledge base management" type of tools are getting a lot more attention these days. In my opinion, the more brains that look at this area, the better the whole ecosystem will get. I'll have to download this and give it a try, and compare it to my current workflow. (I use org-roam on Emacs. I'm not sure if people are sick of org-mode and Emacs being mentioned on HN? I worry about becoming…

I've just been using Google Docs. It's simple, searchable, and I can read/edit my notes while sitting on the can. The only markup I use are: links, lists, bold/underline/strikeout, embedded images? What am I missing?

My experience with Google Docs makes me want to strangle it. It's slow, unresponsive, uses a ton of memory, and I can't shake the constant nagging weight of surveillance being done against me.

EDIT: Oh, and just this last week, I found it couldn't understand that I wanted to use "set up" as a verb, instead of "setup", the noun. Constant underlining when underlining was neither necessary nor desired. Apparently when I told Docs a month ago to avoid critiquing my grammar (via its Settings), it took my mandate as merely an ephemeral suggestion.

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