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Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by camgunz »

stronglikedan wrote: post #99
papercrane wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to CNN's timeline the police asked them to move at 5:09 AM, the reporter asked where they wanted them, at 5:11 AM the police arrested them. The reporter was not given the chance to follow directions. https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/george-floyd-protest-update...

I'm not commenting on this particular case, since we don't have all of the facts yet, but it should only take seconds to comply with a lawful order, not minutes .

This only works if officers only ever give orders for good reasons. Oftentimes they give orders as a pretext to arrest you for noncompliance.

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by voxic11 »

monocasa wrote: post #107
JSavageOne wrote: post #98

How is it legal for a police offer to arrest someone without any warning, without even telling them why they're being arrested, and without probable cause? What are the repercussions for these officers for falsely arresting people? Do they suffer any consequences, or do they suffer no punishment for this injustice? This is extremely disturbing, and further evidence that the U.S. is a police state. I've never felt mor…

> How is it legal for a police offer to arrest someone without any warning, without even telling them why they're being arrested, and without probable cause? Cops can hold you for some amount of time, generally around 24 hours without cause. > What are the repercussions for these officers for falsely arresting people? None > Do they suffer any consequences, or do they suffer no punishment for this injustice? No punis…

Note also that 24 hours usually doesn't include Sundays and holidays, often Saturdays are excluded as well. Meaning if you get arrested before a long weekend it could be 4 days before anyone legally has to consider releasing or charging you.

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by acobster »

maest wrote: post #88
fiblye wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't say exactly what the reasoning was, but watching the full video, they hauled off the black reporter alone, then after a substantial delay, arrested the others all at once. Almost as if they had an "oh wait people might notice this" moment.

It looked like they were hauling people off one-by-one, which could reasonably be standard procedure for riot situations. Isolate individuals from the group and handle them separately - that sort of thing. Moreover, they started with the reporter, since he seemed to be the leader of the group (e.g. he was the one doing the talking).

So, your defense of these actions is that the cops can't discern the difference between press and rioters, so best just arrest them all "one by one"? What part of that is reasonable? Just because it's "standard procedure" does not mean it's justified.

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by [deleted] »

throwaway894345 wrote: post #80
snazz wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(I'm a resident of the Minneapolis suburbs) At this point, from some of my friends in the city, it sounds like there just isn't much oversight at all---they've now been caught on video taking guns from people with valid licenses and now arresting the press. I don't think that we can effectively apply logic when the police system seems so disorganized.

These seem like flagrant violations of constitutional rights; I would be interested to hear from a lawyer what kind of legal liability the police (as a department and as individual bad-apple officers) are opening themselves up to by behaving this way. Hopefully justice is served and constitutional rights are protected.

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Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by Infinitesimus »

dmix wrote: post #22
kmonsen wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The arrested reporter was black, there was another White CB reporter standing nearby that was not arrested. Perhaps it’s all coincidence. https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/29/us/minneapolis-cnn-crew-arres...

The whole CNN team of four was arrested including the white producer and a latino cameraman.

How it played out was interesting though. Arrested reporter first and only after some time came back and arrested the others.

If the intent was to arrest them all, they would have said "you're all under arrest". This smells like they arrested the guy, went "oh shit lets arrest the others too so people don't say we're racist"

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by throwaway894345 »

_bxg1 wrote: post #110
throwaway894345 wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These seem like flagrant violations of constitutional rights; I would be interested to hear from a lawyer what kind of legal liability the police (as a department and as individual bad-apple officers) are opening themselves up to by behaving this way. Hopefully justice is served and constitutional rights are protected.

It's become clear time and again that they never open themselves up to actual liability. But it would be interesting to hear how wide the gap is between law and reality in this case.

> It's become clear time and again that they never open themselves up to actual liability.

I understand that the criminal justice system is very often lenient on police officers, and I'm strongly in favor of increased police accountability; however, there are still many cases of police officers going to prison and departments/municipalities being sued for police misconduct, so to say that there is no actual liability is hyperbole.

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by [deleted] »

JSavageOne wrote: post #113
monocasa wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How is it legal for a police offer to arrest someone without any warning, without even telling them why they're being arrested, and without probable cause? Cops can hold you for some amount of time, generally around 24 hours without cause. > What are the repercussions for these officers for falsely arresting people? None > Do they suffer any consequences, or do they suffer no punishment for this injustice? No punis…

That's horrifying. Why don't we change the law?

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Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by tom_ »

tinyhouse wrote: post #120

What happened to Floyd is horrible and police abuse is a real thing. I never understood why police officers in the US have no common sense. I recall many incidents where they shoot and kill people trying to escape (so no threat to them). I'm happy the public is doing something about it. However, I'm also annoyed by the stupidity of many people who blindly yell racism. Not so long ago there was a naked black male (Har…

The more usual term for an adult human male is a "man".

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by xxs »

iso1631 wrote: post #97
xxs wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The post is gone effectively from HN already. There are enough 'new' accounts (incl. top post) that just press 'flag'

It's current story #24, with 222 up points.

The story likely got reviewed and unflagged. Yet, it just went puff few minutes after making it to top 10 or so while it still had quite massive (140+ or 160+) points. It was gone for quite some hour.

The reply was about the fact the upvotes do not work well enough in contrast to flagging.

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by sasasassy »

I don't have an issue with this.

Both the police and the reporters were calm and polite. The police told them they had to clear the street and instead of obeying the order they asked to let them know when they were going to actually walk down the street. Since they refused to obey the order they were detained and escorted out of the way.

Being a reporter does not give you a free pass to disobey orders, specially during situations like that. Being a police offer also does not give you the right to mistreat people of course, but in this video everyone actually behaved very well.

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