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Why no looting in Japan?

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Re: Why no looting in Japan?

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I've collected heartwarming tweets from the eye-witnesses of 2011 Sendai earthquake as seen on Twitter timeline.

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2330680

They tell their experiences following the earthquake. These snippets of what moved them and touched them during these very trying times are heart-warming.

From the tweets you can see the spirit of "in it together".

Re: Why no looting in Japan?

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post #76

I'm surprised nobody's mentioned the explanation that there's no looting because the Government's emergency response is very good and people are getting what they need at the shelters.

Expanding on this, I suspect that people have confidence that the situation is being well handled, and there are enough supplies to go around, so people don't tend feels a need to loot or hoard. The preparation and the perception are equally important. (Preparation without perception leads to pointless wasteful crime. Perception without the preparation leads to piles of abandoned bodies.)

Re: Why no looting in Japan?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Now you seem to be attributing safety in Japan not to monoculture but to /Japanese/ culture. Fair enough. Yes I wasn't careful enough in my writing. I mean to say that monoculture allows you to optimize around your values. Lowest common denominator sounds too judgmental but I mean it in the set-theory kind of way. I probably should just have said "common values". what would happen if 10 million Japanese moved to Bang…

I think I grok your meaning of "efficiency" now; I'm definitely not suggesting you are an intolerant person. I would politely challenge, however, the idea that there's roughly equal virtue between Brooklyn-style embraced diversity vs Japan-style conformity. Not only does multiculturalism have a genuine moral attractiveness, which should not be dismissed, it makes for a stronger, more resilient country over the long t…

This reminded me of a quote from Shirow Masamune's Ghost In The Shell:

"No matter how powerful we may be fighting-wise, a system where all the parts react the same way is a system with a fatal flaw. Like individual, like organization. Overspecialization leads to death."

Re: Why no looting in Japan?

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From Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman! ; Feynman and a colleague are staying at a traditional Japanese hotel in Kyoto: The next morning the young woman taking care of our room fixes the bath, which was right in our room. Sometime later she returns with a tray to deliver breakfast. I'm partly dressed. She turns to me and says, politely, "Ohayo, gozai masu," which means, "Good morning." Pais is just coming out of the…

They don't feel embarrased if naked public, at least until sometime in twentieth when they finally prohibited child porns. They still have public spas that allow both men and women in one tub.

I don't think your story represents Japanese people's personality regarding not looting. Read .

Re: Why no looting in Japan?

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post #76

I'm surprised nobody's mentioned the explanation that there's no looting because the Government's emergency response is very good and people are getting what they need at the shelters.

>there's no looting because the Government's emergency response is very good...

That wasn't particularly the case during the great Hanshin EQ of 1995. I think they did try to improve gov't response to disasters since then. So, yes, I believe they have faith in the gov't, but it's not because of a stellar record.

Re: Why no looting in Japan?

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I've heard anecdotally that the Japanese are horribly repressed. They also have the second-highest suicide rate among industrialized nations: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_OECD_countries_by_suici... (South Korea is #1, USA is #20). They may be composed, but their culture is far from an ideal.

Re: Why no looting in Japan?

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Japan takes a lot of criticism for being a closed off culture. After living here for a while I have started to believe that it is necessary to support these values. Multiculturalism means lowest common denominator. There are efficiencies you can gain by having a monoculture. Nobody has to lock their bikes, subways can have nice cloth seats and you can walk around in any neighborhood and be safe. When I came to Tokyo,…

Whoa, whoa, whoa! Nobody has to lock their bikes? I've had three bikes stolen since I first came here in 1998---one of them twice! The cops found one of my bikes a year and a half after it was stolen. Within six months it was stolen again!

Cops actually find stolen bikes in Japan? Whoa, that is different.

Re: Why no looting in Japan?

#128
Japan seems to have very little crime, or at least, very little obvious crime. This may be rooted in their distant past. Here is a quote from "Sources of Japanese Tradition - From Earliest Times to 1600" which contains description of Japan by Chinese from around 297 CE:

There is no theft, and litigation is infrequent. In case of violations of the law, the light offender loses his wife and children by confiscation; as for the grave offender, the members of his household and also his kinsmen are exterminated.

Re: Why no looting in Japan?

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post #94

One word : 'Individualism' The article mentions UK floods, Chile and Haiti earthquakes, and Katrina. The UK, Chile, Haiti and US are all 'Individual at the Center' societies. By contrast, Japan is not so 'Individualist' a society. You may have less looting in a place like Japan after a natural disaster of this scale. However, if there is ever say ... oh ... a recession, you will have 100,000,000 people standing aroun…

More so, modern Japan is not a pure entity, it is the product of Japan's prior history, the events of WWII, the American occupation, the reconstruction, and the close ties with America since. Without all of the latter Japan as a nation would be quite different today.

Re: Why no looting in Japan?

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post #127
post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whoa, whoa, whoa! Nobody has to lock their bikes? I've had three bikes stolen since I first came here in 1998---one of them twice! The cops found one of my bikes a year and a half after it was stolen. Within six months it was stolen again!

Cops actually find stolen bikes in Japan? Whoa, that is different.

I never expected much---and I sure didn't expect them to find it a year and a half later. Apparently it was left in a no-bike-zone and they realized it was stolen from the registration number. Glad I registered!
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