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First Krita Beta for Android and ChromeOS in Play Store

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Re: First Krita Beta for Android and ChromeOS in Play Store

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Post by mkl »

omnimus wrote: post #51
mkl wrote: post #24

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I do! This doesn't make sense to me. I have a Galaxy Note 12.2, and it's great, but bigger would be better (it's not quite A4). I also have a 12"×9" Wacom Intuos, 12" Surface Pro, 15" Surface Book 2 from work. All of those would be even better bigger (but the work laptop wouldn't fit in my backpack any more). I have a small Wacom tablet too, and it's too small to be very useful.

Touchscreens and Tablets are something very different. Sure you want as big screen as possible. I bet most people who switch to touchscreens never want tablet back. Many people prefer tablets over touchscreens because you don't have to slouch.

As I mentioned, I have two graphics tablets (i.e. without screens), both Wacom, one large and one small. The small one is not very useful, and the larger one (~A4 drawing area) would be even more useful a bit bigger.

Re: First Krita Beta for Android and ChromeOS in Play Store

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Post by vczf »

Moru wrote: post #93
mbeex wrote: post #10

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The leading brand is quite expensive (at least here in Germany), especially when it comes to reasonable sizes (A4/letter). I've been putting this off for years. Finally - a few months ago - I aquired something remarkable cheaper, a chinese Gaomon M106K. It turned out, it is not cheap at all in the other sense of the word. Good quality and support at least for my use case (a bit different, handwritten formulas and som…

The huion tablets are just as good if not better than wacom.

That's what I thought as well, but my experience contradicts that. Wacom is expensive, but it still leads in terms of sensitivity and accuracy. The pressure levels and other specs don't tell the full story.

On both my iPad Pro (2017) and an open-box Huion H610 Pro (pretty old) I saw stairstepping behavior when drawing a straight line with a ruler on a diagonal. It wasn't very pronounced on the iPad, but it was still there. If you draw the stroke quickly, the smoothing kicks in and straightens it. I'm pretty sure this is a normal side effect of the tech used to identify the grid coordinate of the stylus. But the wobbling was notably bad on the Huion. https://imgur.com/a/iPNZzrY

When I got a Wacom Intuos Pro PTH660 (Amazon renewed), the same test without smoothing showed a perfectly straight line, even when drawing quite slowly.

I don't know why the Wacom is better. Maybe it's got a higher resolution grid for detecting the pen location. Or maybe it's just got better tuned drivers. It's also much easier to freehand accurate lines and ellipses on the Wacom.

You generally can't trust the reviews of Wacom alternatives on YouTube. As reported by Aaron Rutten, most of the companies are not looking for fair and unbiased reviews: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twy5Wo8m284&t=337

Re: First Krita Beta for Android and ChromeOS in Play Store

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Post by mbeex »

mattkevan wrote: post #87
omnimus wrote: post #48

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Of course you want cintiq as big as possible but not tablet. With A4 you get to a point where you have to move a lot around the table with hand in front of you while you are looking straight at your screen its just akward. You dont have space for keyboard etc.

An illustrator friend bought an A3 Wacom years ago. It was so big that if you put legs on it it’d be a reasonable sized desk by itself. He ended up changing the mapping to only use a small portion near the front as he could barely reach the back.

I'm doing this for my A4-sized tablet too. At times. I still have the option (and I'm using it) for the full tablet area. I don't have this for the postcard-sized scribblers.

Re: First Krita Beta for Android and ChromeOS in Play Store

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Post by barrenko »

Been using Krita for a few weeks, UI looks quite similar to Adobe stuff, it's better than GIMP for out of box drawing if you're a beginner.

I also got a Huion H1060P which works better than I expected.

It's actually got me craving for drawing on paper again too, and it's great because of psychological drawing barriers because this way I can hide all my mistakes on my hard drives. And it's a steep curve, like learning to program.

Re: First Krita Beta for Android and ChromeOS in Play Store

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Post by mcjiggerlog »

freedomben wrote: post #98
raghukamath wrote: post #92

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Yes I am using Krita with wacom on Linux. On linux wacom and most other tablets are just plug and play. They just work. krita is just a click away from the software center.

How did you configure Krita? I see almost nothing in the "tablet settings" section besides pressure. When Krita has focus and I draw on the tablet, it does nothing. Every other app treats the tablet like a mouse.

Every other app treating the tablet like a mouse is the normal and desired behaviour. As others said, Wacom tablets on linux should just be plug and play. I literally just plug it in, open krita and start drawing. Big difference from the literally hours I spent on macOS trying to find the right drivers for this older model.

I would add that I did have some issues with the Flatpak version of Krita where the tablet didn't draw as expected. Replacing it with the standard deb from apt repositories fixed that though.

Re: First Krita Beta for Android and ChromeOS in Play Store

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Post by esrauch »

lucb1e wrote: post #119
smitop wrote: post #69

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You can sideload on Chromebooks if you enable developer mode. But enabling developer mode wipes all data on the system and displays a warning message on boot.

So Chromebooks only let you run software that a Google employee approved, unless you wipe your device to enable developer mode (which nobody, after using it for a while and then deciding to develop something, will want to do)? There is no other way to run some test code on it? I didn't know that and it seems strange (even Android is more liberal than that, and that's not a laptop) so genuine question.

I think wiping a Chromebook isn't as problematic as wiping another computer. The OS settings and apps can fully sync, and almost all apps autosync all data to the cloud.

Re: First Krita Beta for Android and ChromeOS in Play Store

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Post by toastal »

mbeex wrote: post #74
illuminated wrote: post #29

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I completely agree with you on this. I was considering GIMP as the only relevant substitute for Adobe until I've played a bit with Krita. Really amazing piece of work.

To be fair, GIMP considers itself also an image processing software, not (or only partially) a painting program. At least, it emphasizes this aspect and it shows (yes it mentions also artistic usage). I'm using it this way as a tool (being a software writer in this industry), but the tasks belonging to it and those for Krita have a virtually empty intersection.

You're absolutely correct, but you know how these things go: people look up FOSS Photoshop (or more likely "free photoshop alternative") on a search engine and GIMP is the first hit and when the tools for drawing aren't as sophisticated, users will say "GIMP sux" because it doesn't match their expectations if they're a drawer even if it's a perfectly adequate image processor.
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