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Re: Uber cuts 3000 more jobs, closes 45 offices

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I was let go today from Uber. If anyone is looking for a Frontend/Fullstack with 7yoe. I'm here :) Find me on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/travis-lawrence-b77400b8/

we're hiring at https://atellio.com - do reach out at nick@atellio.com would love to tell you more!

Re: Uber cuts 3000 more jobs, closes 45 offices

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Dara's email was really well written, and felt as compassionate as one can for a letter from a CEO announcing job cuts. The full email: Team Uber: These have been unprecedented and challenging times for everyone—our societies, our governments, our families, our economies, all around the world. They’ve also been challenging for Uber, and many of you, as you’ve waited for us to define the road ahead. I’ve said clearly…

> I had to make this decision because our very future as an essential service for the cities of the world Any company that facilitates or provides an in-person service that has seen a sharp decline from Covid-19 is pretty clearly not an essential service in the minds of their customers.

The numbers are skewed because of the nature of this pandemic. People are scared of being in close proximity with each other.

I would argue some portion of the accommodations industry is essential (avg. occupancy rates of around ~%60 in normal times, so let's say ~%60 of hotels/motels are essential) and yet I know multiple hoteliers who have had to close shop for the next few months due to zero volume. This doesn't mean that day-to-day, hotels aren't an essential service.

Re: Uber cuts 3000 more jobs, closes 45 offices

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If you’re cutting off someone’s source of income, giving them extra money gives them extra time to land on their feet. I’d say that’s pretty ethical.

Is shorter or zero severance unethical? We all enter into this employment contract knowing it could end abruptly from either party. If money is tight, they could afford longer severances for all if they cut 4000 instead. Does that not seem unethical toward the extra 1000 cut?

Regardless of legality and what the parties agreed to contractually, the fact remains that abrupt termination with zero severance is harmful for the former employee, especially in this economic climate. If the corporation pays a generous severance, the harm is reduced or eliminated. On a scale of ethicality, the more harmful an action is, the less ethical it is, so yes, paying severance is more ethical than not paying severance.

Re: Uber cuts 3000 more jobs, closes 45 offices

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> How might this affect hiring in the future when they need more people "Independent contractors" working from home and using their own equipment. "Gig economy". Hope they enjoy it.

Geez, this is incredibly callous. These are real people who are losing their livelihoods.

So are cab drivers.

Re: Uber cuts 3000 more jobs, closes 45 offices

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AI engineers cost an absurd amount of money for dubious ROI in the self-driving car space.

That's true in more than just in the self-driving car space. Even at companies like AAPL and AMZN where ML focused researchers/engineers work on production related tasks, I've seen their value production is dubious at best.

[Disclaimer: AAPL engineer, technically classified as ML]

I would argue that ML researchers/engineers have a clear impact on AAPL products in several areas:

* FaceID

* Steadily improving speech recognition accuracy in Siri

* Considerable improvement in speech synthesis quality

* Increasing sophistication in camera image processing

Re: Uber cuts 3000 more jobs, closes 45 offices

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It's gauche to say it on the day a bunch of people lost their jobs (and there's no need for the schadenfraude) but I think the underlying point is sane. Uber's business model is replacing FTEs in a a hidebound, regulated industry with gig workers (& good UX!). If you were forecasting how this company in particular would deal with a downturn, it's a reasonable guess that they'll try to do the same thing to their own w…

> Uber's business model is replacing FTEs Where are taxi drivers employees with benefits? At least in New York, they're mostly independent contractors. (A minority are sole proprietors.)

NL.

Re: Uber cuts 3000 more jobs, closes 45 offices

#128

I was let go today from Uber. If anyone is looking for a Frontend/Fullstack with 7yoe. I'm here :) Find me on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/travis-lawrence-b77400b8/

what's the worst way to contact you?

This is a great question. I'll use this as an icebreaker in the future.

Re: Uber cuts 3000 more jobs, closes 45 offices

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> I had to make this decision because our very future as an essential service for the cities of the world Any company that facilitates or provides an in-person service that has seen a sharp decline from Covid-19 is pretty clearly not an essential service in the minds of their customers.

As a counterpoint, buses/railways are imo 100% an essential service for cities and yet they were running empty during the COVID-19 lockdown where I live. I would hate to see them recategorized as non-essential because of a situation that is clearly completely abnormal.

Counterpoint to your counterpoint. I agree that public transport is essential, but the level at which it was running previously was 100% non essential, because the majority of the workforce in places like London (where we have excellent public transport) can & should work from home. There's no need for accountants to sit in an open plan office all clustered on the same spot in the City of London and therefore putting a huge strain on public transport which forces London to run a train every 60 seconds.

And precisely because public transport IS essential we still had all of it running, just at a reduced capacity to facilitate the essential public demand. So comparing public transport with Uber only highlights even more how Uber is non essential, because we can live pretty much without it, but we evidently can't without public transport (as seen in London).

Re: Uber cuts 3000 more jobs, closes 45 offices

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what's the worst way to contact you?

This is a great question. I'll use this as an icebreaker in the future.

Let's see what Reddit says.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/gm5zwu/what_is_t...?

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