Earlier quoted context omitted.
To be fair who can out debate him.
At least three other people?
Still at the six sigma of candidates
The pervert's guide to computer programming languages (2017) [video]
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Re: The pervert's guide to computer programming languages (2017) [video]
#122From the video... Psychopath Languages: Javascript, PHP, VBA, and SQL Masochist Languages: C, Assembly, Ada, Brainfuck, and Factor Sadist Languages: Perl, Clojure, Erlang, and Regex Fetishistic Languages: Erlang, Smalltalk, Elixir, and Factor Obsessional Languages: Java, C++, Haskell, Scala, Go Hysterical Languages: Python, Ruby, C#, Prolog, Elixir, and Matlib Depression Languages: COBOL Melancholy Languages: Lisp, S…
Its interesting to me to reclassify language schisms slash internal wars in this context. The C programmers(masochists) vs the C++99 programmers(Obsessives) vs C++11 programmers(Obssessives who want to move to Hysterical). The Raku vs Perl split as a move toward sociopathic behavior. The resistance in go to generics as an aversion of the masochistic to the hysterical. Its super fun.
Re: The pervert's guide to computer programming languages (2017) [video]
#123Can someone explain me how's that C# and Java are in different categories?
Its not necessarily about how a language is syntactically or semantically it is about how the users and creators of a language talk about it and want it to be seen.
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
The mind maps were both hand drawn and made using simplemind. Loomio is a voting tool :)
cheers for the most original analysis of a domain (PL) using a farflung framework (psychoanalysis) i've seen in a long time. really good job! have you tried to publish in a journal? incidentally you might enjoy this paper https://web.ics.purdue.edu/~plotnits/PDFs/ap%20lacan%20and%2...
That paper looks great. No, I haven't published anywhere. If you have any suggestions on journals let me know :)
Re: The pervert's guide to computer programming languages (2017) [video]
#125From the video... Psychopath Languages: Javascript, PHP, VBA, and SQL Masochist Languages: C, Assembly, Ada, Brainfuck, and Factor Sadist Languages: Perl, Clojure, Erlang, and Regex Fetishistic Languages: Erlang, Smalltalk, Elixir, and Factor Obsessional Languages: Java, C++, Haskell, Scala, Go Hysterical Languages: Python, Ruby, C#, Prolog, Elixir, and Matlib Depression Languages: COBOL Melancholy Languages: Lisp, S…
Obviously Lisp, Scheme, and Smalltalk are not melancholy languages because you are only melancholy about them when you are not using them. They are perhaps narcissistic languages, or obsessional.
Well said. Used to be a die hard Smalltalker (with a strong appreciation for my Lisp (esp CLOS) cousins). Now I get by doing Swift, Kotlin, Python, and a bit of embedded C. Life feels dirtier now.
Re: The pervert's guide to computer programming languages (2017) [video]
#126From the video... Psychopath Languages: Javascript, PHP, VBA, and SQL Masochist Languages: C, Assembly, Ada, Brainfuck, and Factor Sadist Languages: Perl, Clojure, Erlang, and Regex Fetishistic Languages: Erlang, Smalltalk, Elixir, and Factor Obsessional Languages: Java, C++, Haskell, Scala, Go Hysterical Languages: Python, Ruby, C#, Prolog, Elixir, and Matlib Depression Languages: COBOL Melancholy Languages: Lisp, S…
Where do Nock and Hoon belong (from Urbit, for those who are out of the loop)?
Subjecting Urbit to Lacanian/Žižekian psychoanalysis is like feeding Zippy the Pinhead quotes into ELIZA, just without the computer.
Re: The pervert's guide to computer programming languages (2017) [video]
#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
I assert there are comparatively more ordered mental states, comparatively more correct patterns of thought, and comparatively healthier logical reasoning. None of that is black and white, and no one is perfect, but some do more harm, and some do more good. To claim otherwise is to abandon reason and hope when confronted with suffering. You have not done so; if not, why type at the internet?
I will take your first branch: Mental states are not observable, certainly not in a way which gives rise to some measure which we can call "orderedness". Study psychopathy and you'll see extremely "ordered" behaviors from people who are "suffering" from "mental disorders". At some point, the analogy becomes incoherent; human behaviors are too rich. You may be interested in Aumann's Agreement: If two reasoners disagre…
I can observe my own mental states, and I work to bring them into better alignment with my observations - more ordered. When I think it helpful to others, I use language to represent them. Because other's mental states are not directly obervable, I use a null hypothesis that they also use language to indicate their mental state.
When I use a regular expression, I have an intent to model an understanding. Some people may not have that vocabulary at all - my spouse, for instance. Some may be far more fluent than I. The point is: I have observed my understanding to be disordered or incomplete. I further observe that is the default state until I apply a degree of attention.
"Stigma" is an inaccurate model for when we don't have the resources to align another's goals with our own - goals which must include a baseline of wellbeing for every other. Persons suffering harmful hallucinations - or other harmful mental states - should be treated for them, but "stigma" is a blunt indicator to avoid conferring responsibility on those persons - I hold it an error to involve hatred or indifference. Our deficiencies in understanding are pervasive. I would not ask my spouse to develop a regular expression. They would not ask me to perform a phrase from a Mozart sonata.
Re: The pervert's guide to computer programming languages (2017) [video]
#128Critical theory is a communicable memetic mental disorder.
Yeah, but so is nearly everything else. Money, sexuality and gender, architectural designs, military tradition, the list goes on without end. Nearly our entire society is a communicable memecomplex, and additionally, nearly every meme is logically incoherent, or at least logically unfounded. By the very implied claim that you make that mental disorders exist, you also imply that there is such a thing as ordered menta…
> Yeah, but so is nearly everything else.
Nope. There are scientific, verifiable, objective things (and nobody cares about epistemological problems).
As other post told: rockets fly, internet connects etc.
And there are subjective matters, like ethics, aesthetics, art, beauty.
Now, subjective doesn't mean bad. What I really dislike is things like philosophy (which critical theory is part of), which tries to cover subjective opinions with obscure rhetoric to make them appear as facts.
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Our bridges stand. Our rockets fly, and our planes (tend) to not drop out of the air unexpectedly. If not for some healthy logical reasoning, correct patterns of thought, and ordered mental states, then what? Yes, it's fun to discuss this kind of thing, and a lot of what we do is irrational, but it's just as often sophistry as anything else. I note, of course, that you did only say 'nearly', but that's basically exac…
Mathematics and physics are memecomplices which allow us to study and consider the Platonic realm. There's no one single mathematics from a cultural perspective; consider where numerals, operators, and grouping come from. The notation is how we make sense of the abstract, non-physical aspects with our mere physical brains. The "nearly" that I am exempting is for those things which are logically deduced from other thi…
> Mathematics
Is a purely deductive field and have no connection to reality, it's all about dealing with pure mathematical objects.
> physics
Exists within a strong empirical framework, which allows us to verify models, not just construct them.
Critical theory gives no verification framework whatsoever to prove or omit its statements.
Re: The pervert's guide to computer programming languages (2017) [video]
#130Here's something a friend of mine wrote about one of Žižek's movies: >I don’t usually recommend movies, but I really got a lot out “The perverts guide to ideology“ >Essentially it’s a well presented theory that any particular ideology is a sum of components that can be combined to create a complete undeniable way of living. Nationalism, ethnicity, religion, atheism, capitalism, socialism (and many others) are all com…
You should probably check out the debate between Zizek and Graham Harman (the object oriented ontology guy): https://youtu.be/6GHiV4tuRt8
Although ooo is not directly oo, you can probably pick up on where philosophers are more concerned with the problem of properties ( universals, nominalism, etc) in ontology a lot more than language designers are.