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Trump Halts U.S. Funding of World Health Organization

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Re: Trump Halts U.S. Funding of World Health Organization

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The WHO team was instrumental in getting the Chinese to report accurate infection rates, within 2 days of them arriving in country the reporting system was completely overhauled and they started reporting clinically diagnosed cases as well as positive tests at a time when testing capacity was minimal. This was a crucial contribution in illuminating the scale of the outbreak early on. Before that they, like everyone e…

> Honestly, who has the best track record of tackling this issue and taking it seriously. Taiwan, who the WHO regularly denies exists. South Korea, whose success and strategies have been ignored. This crisis has shown us the true face of the WHO: a primarily political organization with occasional work in medicine.

>South Korea, whose success and strategies have been ignored.

The WHO published summaries and support for the South Korean approach to the virus on 21 January, particularly highlighting their approach to testing and contact tracing and recommending similar approaches elsewhere. The WHO then started providing technical expertise to help countries set up testing and contact tracing systems, especially in poorer countries without that knowhow.

What was Trump doing, was he setting up a G20 summits to co-ordinate the global response like George Bush did during the financial crisis in 2008? Taking a role of global leadership? Nope, more than 5 weeks later while the WHO was leading efforts to track and contain the virus, Trump was still calling the whole thing a hoax at a mass rally in the US.

Trump can throw blame wherever he likes, you can pick nits in the activities of organisations that have been at the forefront of actually tackling this crisis. Whatever. But de-funding the WHO right now is a disgusting and reprehensible attack on the world's ability to tackle this crisis, from a country that was instrumental is setting up and running the WHO and it's predecessors for more than 100 years.

Re: Trump Halts U.S. Funding of World Health Organization

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This is true, absolutely, but had no material effect on the world's ability to respond to the situation. Suppose they had reported possible human transmission in December, instead of early January, would that have made any difference to Trump calling it a hoax on February 28?

> Trump calling it a hoax on February 28? cite please.

Not directly calling the virus a box, but: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-re...

Re: Trump Halts U.S. Funding of World Health Organization

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Gates' father was a pal of Soros and Fauci. https://www.trendsmap.com/twitter/tweet/1248480455826870282

Is this supposed to be a positive or negative fact? I know Soros is somewhat of a philanthropist but haven't heard of Fauci, and you bringing this up makes it sound accusatory.

There’s a big right wing conspiracy re. George Soros: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros#Conspiracy_theori...

Re: Trump Halts U.S. Funding of World Health Organization

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The body count from those statements will probably be in the mid-100k or so. By instantly trying to politicise any criticism of his many failures Trump incited his moron followers to ignore the situation in the critical early weeks. States resisted shutdowns to score points with their cheetoh-fuhrer and that will end up killing thousands.

Show me a death certificate with the cause of death saying "Trump failure".

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Re: Trump Halts U.S. Funding of World Health Organization

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> Trump calling it a hoax on February 28? cite please.

Not directly calling the virus a box, but: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-re...

The question was rhetorical, it's well known that he didn't, and the statement is false.

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> The China "results" were actually biased, so Taiwan was right to ask verification, but that's only retrospectively. At the time, there was no such certainty of their wrongdoing, especially given that they also collaborated by other means. The reason you didn't find much is that the WHO refused to pass on Taiwan's warning. Taiwanese doctors had direct emails from multiple colleagues in Wuhan, some of whom were punis…

Locked-down... heh... ^^ Also, I like supra-national bodies. They warrant that the non-zero sum game that is our planet and societies still live on... PS: did Taiwan try to pass the warning directly? They could have published through other ways, Twitter being only one among numerous examples. This is a sincere question, not a trap.

Yes. It was in national media and the TW CDC has a Twitter account that was tweeting about it repeatedly for weeks while the WHO was still downplaying it.

Re: Trump Halts U.S. Funding of World Health Organization

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This is a different link and, as it mentions, Taiwan's CDC has email receipts of its communications with the WHO. In an outbreak situation, the correct response is NOT to say, "until you've published a study we'll tell the world there's no evidence of human-to-human transmission". If multiple doctors are getting sick from their patients, there IS evidence of human-to-human transmission. If those doctors are in an aut…

That makes sense. Did Taiwan try to publish directly? On social media or other.

Yes. The local CDC is on Twitter and Facebook.
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