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Re: Popcorn Time 4.0

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Post by FalconSensei »

olah_1 wrote: post #72
rafaelvasco wrote: post #39

If it's not on Netflix or any streaming provider, I have no choice but to pirate it. Plain and simple. Most media content is still outside the main providers.

Pro-tip: You can now digitally rent basically every movie from Youtube or Amazon. Services like https://www.justwatch.com/ make it easy to not break the law. I used to use Popcorn time all the time, but honestly it kinda feels good to not steal /shrug

Yet you can't rent TV shows, only buy. And to buy a show episode is the same price as to rent a movie, which is 2x longer. Make it possible to rent tv show episodes, and then I would be able to rent them

BTW, I also tried to buy Harlots in Canada, in physical format. It wasn't available in Blu-Ray

Re: Popcorn Time 4.0

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Post by sbarre »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #100
gerardnll wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

'... it's hard to decide if that new movie just out is worth spending $15 on. Might be crap.' As well a restaurant might be crap too, or a website or mason work... look up reviews before buying.

If you go too a restaurant and the food is really terrible, then you can refuse to pay, send a dish back, get a reduction/waiver of the bill - even the best places get it wrong sometimes. Anyone ever got money back from Amazon/Apple/whoever because a movie they sold you sucked?

Where I live, our major cinema chain will refund your ticket if you leave in the first 20(?) minutes of a movie.

Re: Popcorn Time 4.0

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Post by wlesieutre »

fernandotakai wrote: post #106
wlesieutre wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm using PIA, but they were purchased recently by Kape Technologies so I'm not sure if I'll re-up when my subscription expires. Where I'm at right now is they're probably more trustworthy than Comcast, and less likely to do something like selling my IP address -> personal identity to advertisers. https://www.hackread.com/private-internet-access-pia-vpn-sol... They say it doesn't change anything, but with VPN service…

i signed up for PIA using paypal (i thought i was just setting up my payment source, but they fully created an account) and they sent me an username + password in plain text via email. i cannot trust a company that does that.

On the one hand, not great. On the other, what can someone do with access to your PIA account? I don't think that gives them any ability to snoop on your traffic, and there's no user data in the account for them to steal.

They could mooch off your access within the 5 device limit, or sign in online and pay your bill?

Re: Popcorn Time 4.0

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Post by kkarakk »

_ea1k wrote: post #115
q3k wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We were fine for a while. Netflix killed film/series piracy for me - for a while it literally made no sense. Then, every copyright owner realized they want a slice of the streaming cake - (HBO, Disney+, all the cable networks...) and started making their content exclusive on their platforms. Now, instead of a single Netflix (or anyone else, really) subscription I would have to pay for a dozen, that I would rarely use…

I remember when people complained that cable wasn't à la carte. Now we complain that streaming services are à la carte. Its a fun cycle.

For whatever reason, video content is tightly tethered to copyright based gatekeeping profits. The cycle can be seen in literally every country.

Similar reasons for why Youtuber film-makers aren't treated seriously by Hollywood film-makers ie their portfolios aren't taken seriously. There's a weird snobbishness in the whole industry

Re: Popcorn Time 4.0

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Post by gmueckl »

dylan604 wrote: post #116
pachico wrote: post #44

I'm a huge fan of swing manouche (jazz style developed during the '40s). I can't find albums in legal sources that I can instead find in Nicotine++ (a Linux version of the old Soulseek). What should I do? Accept that I won't find it? I remember once writing to an Aussie record label asking for a copy of an old album of Brett Garsed. They told me I wouldn't find it here in Europe nor they had the means to send it to m…

>I remember once writing to an Aussie record label asking for a copy of an old album of Brett Garsed I applaud the effort at legitimately trying to get a copy. However, sounds like an opportunity still might exist. Small record labels are always hard pressed for cash. Maybe there's a business deal to be made. I'm sure they would be open to licensing the music to you. You could then release the album yourself, or mayb…

What deals could a small label make with an unknown trader with no reputation that are better than uploading the backlog to Spotify with little effort and hoping for a bit of income? This is assuming that the label has the right to upload the works.

Re: Popcorn Time 4.0

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Post by 1_player »

dylan604 wrote: post #116
pachico wrote: post #44

I'm a huge fan of swing manouche (jazz style developed during the '40s). I can't find albums in legal sources that I can instead find in Nicotine++ (a Linux version of the old Soulseek). What should I do? Accept that I won't find it? I remember once writing to an Aussie record label asking for a copy of an old album of Brett Garsed. They told me I wouldn't find it here in Europe nor they had the means to send it to m…

>I remember once writing to an Aussie record label asking for a copy of an old album of Brett Garsed I applaud the effort at legitimately trying to get a copy. However, sounds like an opportunity still might exist. Small record labels are always hard pressed for cash. Maybe there's a business deal to be made. I'm sure they would be open to licensing the music to you. You could then release the album yourself, or mayb…

It's called Spotify, Apple Music, Google Music (does it still exist?)

My brother made a song with 10 yearly listens and I can find it on there.

Also Bandcamp is a thing. Very few dinosaurs or really, super niche artists are on neither platform.

Re: Popcorn Time 4.0

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Post by sbarre »

q3k wrote: post #15
awicz wrote: post #4

Serious question about torrents: How is this not stealing? I'm not trying to be judgemental. I certainly don't have any room to do so as I used Napster and the likes back in the day. Now with the advent of Amazon Prime, Hulu, Netflix, etc, I'm genuinely curious to know the moral argument for using services and platforms that utilize torrents to distribute media other creators are actually trying to sell? Edit: Appare…

We were fine for a while. Netflix killed film/series piracy for me - for a while it literally made no sense. Then, every copyright owner realized they want a slice of the streaming cake - (HBO, Disney+, all the cable networks...) and started making their content exclusive on their platforms. Now, instead of a single Netflix (or anyone else, really) subscription I would have to pay for a dozen, that I would rarely use…

And in the meantime, you're just choosing not to consume their content, right?

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Post by kkarakk »

illumanaughty wrote: post #76
deanstag wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The question opens up other questions exactly like you mentioned. For eg: If it was never about the price point, and more about it being available on a single platform, would you be fine with paying a very high subscription fee for a platform which holds all the catalogues? Let me be clear, I torrent things too, but I've never really had an answer to the piracy question. I wouldnt just want to blame it on all the stu…

I'd at least like to see what a more fair & open content market would look like. So far it's just anti-competitive, anti-consumer bullshit for TV & Movies. I haven't pirated a game after Steam got big. I haven't pirated any music after Spotify came around. Clearly the model works.

Literally Youtube. If google actually seriously got into the media business by buying up some smaller film catalogs worldwide(i'm sure AMC/criterion/some other country specific catalog collections will be easily purchasable for them as a starter), we could see streaming services go under overnight.

I think anti-trust litigation from old lawmakers is the only thing stopping them

Re: Popcorn Time 4.0

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Post by dfxm12 »

1_player wrote: post #7

Say what you will about stealing, illegality, unsavouriness. If the film industry would collectively take their head out of their arses and provide such a simple interface and wide catalogue to the masses, they would make hundreds of billions. I would literally pay $50 a month for an official and legal version of this. The end users don't really care that it is not possible because "legal reasons". This app proves ot…

This doesn't really explain your position on why you don't just buy/rent $50 worth of movies per month.

edit: I don't have Spotify or Apple Music. Can you expand on this without putting it in terms of those services?

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Post by josho »

CJefferson wrote: post #102
1_player wrote: post #7

Say what you will about stealing, illegality, unsavouriness. If the film industry would collectively take their head out of their arses and provide such a simple interface and wide catalogue to the masses, they would make hundreds of billions. I would literally pay $50 a month for an official and legal version of this. The end users don't really care that it is not possible because "legal reasons". This app proves ot…

An official and legal version of this wouldn't be $50/month, it would be more like $200/month. It includes movies from every major company, and films while they are still in the cinema.

Streaming music has set the price floor. For the price of an album a month you can stream all the music you want, even new releases.

What makes you think movies should have a multiple of 10 instead of 1 for a monthly subscription fee?

I'll attempt an answer, the cost should be whatever the market will bare. The market could likely boom at $50/mth, but at $200 it would be niche. The industry seems to even be coalescing around $30/mth (my guess) through consumers paying for multiple services.

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