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Then these apps would be removed from the app store, I suppose.
It's tricky. Could you imagine if Apple removed Uber from the App Store? Users would be livid. And at Apple, not Uber, I suspect.
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Interestingly I interpret the article as apps were abusing push notifications without a second thought in the past when it was explicitly against the guidelines, I fail to see how they will self moderate now some of it is even allowed. With the ample data we have so far it most probably will lead to dark UI patterns with dysfunctional opt-outs and/or blanket consents at most if someone takes it seriously at all.
I would assume you could control the showing of ad notifications and non ad notifications separately as a user.
Not only that, but now Apple is probably going to be very aggressive about kicking apps off the app store if they find even a single notification in the non add stream that they, in their sole estimation, consider to be an ad.
This might be a trap feature. I could easily see it being used to allow apple a reason to get rid of you.
I've only recently heard of push notifications. I feel like we are being inundated with so many notifications that we now need a super notifications. Where does this notification creep end? Normal notifications should be perfectly acceptable if things weren't spamming that method to begin with. I feel like notifications and eventually push notifications will go the way of the phone call. You won't even bother looking…
Google introduced Google Cloud Messaging [0] in 2007 and Apple introduced Apple Push Notification service in 2008 [1].
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Cloud_Messaging
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Push_Notification_servic...
I've only recently heard of push notifications. I feel like we are being inundated with so many notifications that we now need a super notifications. Where does this notification creep end? Normal notifications should be perfectly acceptable if things weren't spamming that method to begin with. I feel like notifications and eventually push notifications will go the way of the phone call. You won't even bother looking…
The news notifications you're getting are the same push notifications that other apps have had for over a decade.
The most unfortunate thing is that, if you configure settings inside an app, half the time it's disrespected and that setting is changed later. It's safer to change in the Notifications center in iOS (eg, in the phone preferences, rather than in the app preferences).
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> most of the engineers run with security protections disabled so they don't see these… Are you talking about engineers within Apple? What is your source for this information?
nvram boot-args="amfi_get_out_of_my_way=0x1"
The problem to me is that it is increasingly difficult to find software that is just useful, without disrespecting users constantly. There are tons of issues in the App Store off the top of my head that I would rather Apple solve first (“making advertising easier” is #67422 on the list). And incidentally, their changes to search have made it incredibly hard to find apps I want, while adding...advertising! Now, every…
The problem to me is that it is increasingly difficult to find software that is just useful, without disrespecting users constantly. There are tons of issues in the App Store off the top of my head that I would rather Apple solve first (“making advertising easier” is #67422 on the list). And incidentally, their changes to search have made it incredibly hard to find apps I want, while adding...advertising! Now, every…
I wish there were more open source iOS apps. Recouping development costs is probably a big driving factor and provided I haven’t dabbled in building iOS apps in years I imagine the open source community driven scene hasn’t hasn’t changed much in the iOS community and turn costs remain high.
On Android, you can create apps for free in your spare time and distribute them however you want. The lower barrier to entry means a lot more open source hobby projects.
Distribution is another big issue. Even if you found an open source iOS app, how are you going to run it on your own device? You can only run apps blessed by apple or pay the developer fees to compile it yourself.
Apple severely restricts the hobby/ open source market from both ends.
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I wish there were more open source iOS apps. Recouping development costs is probably a big driving factor and provided I haven’t dabbled in building iOS apps in years I imagine the open source community driven scene hasn’t hasn’t changed much in the iOS community and turn costs remain high.
The problem is that it costs money to develop iOS apps. Even just the $100/year or whatever it is, is enough to severely discourage open sourcing your apps. On Android, you can create apps for free in your spare time and distribute them however you want. The lower barrier to entry means a lot more open source hobby projects. Distribution is another big issue. Even if you found an open source iOS app, how are you goin…
The problem to me is that it is increasingly difficult to find software that is just useful, without disrespecting users constantly. There are tons of issues in the App Store off the top of my head that I would rather Apple solve first (“making advertising easier” is #67422 on the list). And incidentally, their changes to search have made it incredibly hard to find apps I want, while adding...advertising! Now, every…
I wish there were more open source iOS apps. Recouping development costs is probably a big driving factor and provided I haven’t dabbled in building iOS apps in years I imagine the open source community driven scene hasn’t hasn’t changed much in the iOS community and turn costs remain high.
If Apple had a mythical developer mode/SEP disengage button (like Macs and Chromebooks do) that voided the warranty, disabled the secure enclave (therefore Apple Pay and system-wide encryption), and put a big warning on the lockscreen in exchange for sideloading access to make development easier/cheaper, I think more people would do it.
Or if they let you build and compile apps on the iPad Pro that is super powerful but still can't be used for anything more taxing than word processing, but I've ranted about that on hn too much.
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I would assume you could control the showing of ad notifications and non ad notifications separately as a user.
That's what I'm assuming. Not only that, but now Apple is probably going to be very aggressive about kicking apps off the app store if they find even a single notification in the non add stream that they, in their sole estimation, consider to be an ad. This might be a trap feature. I could easily see it being used to allow apple a reason to get rid of you.
I’m excited for Apple to enforce this policy. Yet another example of Apple being pro user.