It looks like they've moved to https://thedonald.win/ - I wonder if they're using a fork of reddit's old source code. The site feels like a subreddit.
Smart move, quarantine is prelude to deletion, they're just waiting for a pretense.
Reddit purges 1/2 of The Donald’s moderators – replaces them with approved mods
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Re: Reddit purges 1/2 of The Donald’s moderators – replaces them with approved mods
#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's far more active than I would have imagined from this sort of splinter forum. Though it's also the height of T_D drama which lights the perfect fire under a splinter forum.
It's been the official website of the T_D subreddit for awhile now. This is not the first wave of drama T_D mods have dealt with. They've dealt with quarantines, post-editing, brigading, and ranking algorithm changes, that's why they have a site already and are using it as a primary platform as opposed to a backup (although the subreddit still has a much larger user base, the content is fresher on the main site). Als…
Less than half. About 43% according to 538
Re: Reddit purges 1/2 of The Donald’s moderators – replaces them with approved mods
#123Any other subreddit would have simply been banned long ago for unremitting and unrepentant rule breaking and evasion. And by the subreddit moderators themselves, no less, not just the users!
Well, I don’t follow this that closely, but I do sort of follow, and it’s still not clear exactly what rules they were actually breaking: after all, Reddit doesn’t have that many. No illegal content, no real names, and no “group voting” (did I miss any)? Have the mods actually engaged in any of that? This seems to me to be very selective rule enforcement; every time I’ve looked through t_d, all I ever saw was silly p…
You did not look closely or often enough, and there is sufficient evidence to disprove your “it seemed fine to me” anecdote.
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#124Advertising and free discussion do not mix, at all. It is not surprising this sort of thing is being done by a company whose true customers are their advertisers, not users. Internet companies who mess with user content to appease advertisers are going to learn soon enough that they can't serve both masters at least for anything anyone is very passionate about, like politics. When I was a kid®, this sort content live…
The problem is there aren't many places where free discussion can be had without ad funding. It's one of the reasons I started plebia.io -- because ad funded discussion platforms will ultimately make decisions that are in the best interest of their customers (ad companies), not their users.
I go into more depth in a blog post here: https://www.plebia.io/blogs/site/uDIkCFPp2b8+Online-Discussi...
Re: Reddit purges 1/2 of The Donald’s moderators – replaces them with approved mods
#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's been the official website of the T_D subreddit for awhile now. This is not the first wave of drama T_D mods have dealt with. They've dealt with quarantines, post-editing, brigading, and ranking algorithm changes, that's why they have a site already and are using it as a primary platform as opposed to a backup (although the subreddit still has a much larger user base, the content is fresher on the main site). Als…
Less than half. About 43% according to 538
50% according to Gallup
46.4% according to the RCP polling average, within the margin of error to say half.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_tru...
The average approval rating is strong enough to hold my point that there is a large number of supporters, do you disagree?
Re: Reddit purges 1/2 of The Donald’s moderators – replaces them with approved mods
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Users now can be (and have been) banned for upvoting posts in quarantined subreddits I've heard this thrown around, but I thought it was for upvoting posts that are later removed for violating Reddit's rules - not just upvoting any posts on quarantined subreddits. I can't figure out if this is the case, though, here is what Reddit said, I think: > Users who consistently upvote policy-breaking content within quarant…
And that's fair. I should've done a better job differentiating between the official word and the word of random Redditors that have a vested interest in making themselves look better. I have to assume the actual implementation will look for like the former than the latter.
You may want to edit your original post to reflect this.
Re: Reddit purges 1/2 of The Donald’s moderators – replaces them with approved mods
#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
Correct me if I'm wrong and I read it wrong, but I think you're mixing up things here. > Users that have more than 500 karma in quarantined subreddits outside of The Donald will not be allowed on the list of approved applicants [to be a moderator] This is only for being a moderator. Simply upvoting posts (that don't break any rules) in quarantined subreddits does not get you punished. > If the content that people are…
> Simply upvoting posts (that don't break any rules) in quarantined subreddits does not get you punished. The problem is that parenthetical, and determining it. Users were told that upvoting rule-breaking posts would risk a sitewide ban, without being told what content it was or what rules it broke . Reddit says it gets to punish users by declaring any content "bad", by arbitrary or overly broad or even unspecified r…
> Users were told that upvoting rule-breaking posts would risk a sitewide ban
The consequences are very gradual, starting with warnings, then going up to temporary and eventually permanent ban. So it won't come out of nowhere, you will have plenty of change to adjust your behavior.
> Reddit gets to declare any content "bad" by arbitrary or overly broad or even unspecified rules. That's the uproar.
Not really, they have very precise rules and content policy, which they use to take down content.
I do agree that being told which content you're being punished for, and what specific rules said content broke, would help users adjust their behavior, but you also run the chance, as with any sort of moderation, to teaching abusers ways to bypass the system. That's why things like shadowbanning exists.
At the end of the day, as yesterday's ruling for Youtube showed [0], these websites are not public forums, and they are free to have any rules they want. If you're not happy or you don't trust that they apply their content policy fairly, you can move to a different website with different rules.
Re: Reddit purges 1/2 of The Donald’s moderators – replaces them with approved mods
#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
Conspiracy theories are not considered valuable commentary here on HN, so ironically you may find your post flagged and remove by the community due to violating of this forum’s user and mod expectations.
What's the conspiracy theory? Dude admitted it himself: https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/5frg1n/tifu_...
“Can't assume this is being done in good faith as the comments leading The Donald to be quarantined could be edits, or shill accounts.”
Some mods were caught upvoting content forbidden by the Reddit participation guidelines, leading to the removal of said mods. Are those mods shill accounts? What evidence can you provide supporting that?
Re: Reddit purges 1/2 of The Donald’s moderators – replaces them with approved mods
#129The 'frontpage of the internet' is actively taking control of the subreddit of a presidential candidate, in an election year. I know that HN is highly against Trump, and probably cheer for this decision, but how is this not a democratic issue?
Calling T_D "the subreddit of a presidential candidate" is like calling a forum for hardcore Harry Potter-themed BDSM erotica "the forum for Harry Potter".
Except ... that the latter is pretty harmless and all in good fun for the people who are into it, while T_D is a venue for (among other things) radicalizing literal children with blind ideological hatred and shameless untruths.
I still like the analogy, though.
Re: Reddit purges 1/2 of The Donald’s moderators – replaces them with approved mods
#130What does this do besides drive them to Whatsapp? Indian Nationalist movement grew to the level it is today in part because of the rapid growth of Nationalist whatsapp echo-chambers.
> What does this do besides drive them to Whatsapp?
The mods of T_D have created a website, thedonald.win, in anticipation of T_D being shut down. Anyone who visits that sub regularly knows that that's "The new T_D"