Epic Tells Customers It Will Stop Google Cloud Integrations

Post by oarsinsync » Tue, Jan 21, 2020, 6:02 AM UTC

Dylan16807 wrote: post #109

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I fundamentally disagree with the idea that the system can somehow overcome poor implementation; guardrails can only do so much. At the end of the day you can set up almost any piece of software in a way that hinders rather than helps a user. At some point the organization needs to take some responsibility for that. At any rate, this all started with a glib "garbage software" comment, so I suppose I should happy that…

> I fundamentally disagree with the idea that the system can somehow overcome poor implementation If very large amounts of 'implementation' have to be done on top of the software, then that's also a sign of bad design. It should be handling more of the implementation and making it more streamlined.

Post by atoav » Tue, Jan 21, 2020, 6:08 AM UTC

kyrra wrote: post #8

Googler, opinions are my own. WSJ has had some good converge about parallel medical record stories that are going on right now too, as has CNBC: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/17/epic-systems-warns-customers... https://www.wsj.com/articles/paging-dr-google-how-the-tech-g... WSJ podcast about it: https://www.wsj.com/podcasts/the-journal/why-google-is-pushi... To quote the end of the WSJ article: > Existing players in th…

Post by powowow » Tue, Jan 21, 2020, 6:13 AM UTC

killjoywashere wrote: post #53

This is a head-in-the-sand move by US companies (not just Cerner and Epic, but the hospital system CIOs). If they really think Google is going after healthcare data, they should keep in mind Google is already working with NHS and has a little thing called the Billion Users project focused on India. The British and Indian populations have the same health problems Americans do. Proportions might change, but the content…

Post by axaxs » Tue, Jan 21, 2020, 6:23 AM UTC

bfung wrote: post #106

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Not just their billing, but their terrible interface. I shouldn't have to ctrl f everytime I want to check ec2 instances. Whoever decided to show 200+ "services" on a single screen is a crazy person.

At the company level of conversation, the UI of AWS services isn't that big of a deal. The people with budget authority usually don't even see the AWS UI and have most likely never logged in.

Post by jsperx » Tue, Jan 21, 2020, 6:35 AM UTC

commandar wrote: post #35

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I have only limited experience in the healthcare space when it comes to cloud selection, but I can tell you that every single healthcare company I work with uses Azure. They don't do it because it may or may not be right for their needs. They pick Azure because somewhere along the line the mid- and upper-level managers, including director-level IT people, have been made to believe that anything other than Windows is…

>They pick Azure because somewhere along the line the mid- and upper-level managers, including director-level IT people, have been made to believe that anything other than Windows is insecure and not suitable for HIPAA. I'd argue it's less because of a belief that a non-Windows environment is inherently insecure and more that Microsoft very aggressively promotes their products as being compliant with regulations like…