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Post by xenospn »

discardable_dan wrote: post #69
codingslave wrote: post #68

The trick is that there are a bunch of mattress companies on Amazon selling really cheap foam mattresses (~200$) that are basically the same as Casper. But Casper jammed a ton of money into branding and marketing, so probably has great margins on their products. Foam mattresses as a product are getting extremely cheap and the quality is really not bad. I have a cheap one and honestly like sleeping on it more than 120…

Can you recommend any of these cheap Amazon alternatives?

Had this one for the last five years, it's been great: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00828AQ9M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b...

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Post by Lotus123 »

astura wrote: post #38
tempsy wrote: post #2

I haven't been in the market for a mattress for awhile now but went on Casper's website and was shocked to see the price for a Queen is now $1095. I didn't remember it being that high, and checked Wayback and sure enough it was $850 in 2015, and $950 in 2017. Given how many copycats are out there, many selling for much less, can someone help me understand how Casper gets away with selling a $1095 mattress + tax to a…

Advertising/marketing. People often perceive a mattress as "very important," as sleep is important, and are willing to spend a bit extra if they think the quality will be there and they'll sleep better. In reality I believe most of these "mattress in a box" companies are selling the same 2-3 mattress manufactured in the same factory. Personally, I buy mattress in the $300-$500 range. When I was in college I just slep…

http://freakonomics.com/podcast/mattress-store-bubble/

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Post by adjkant »

awalton wrote: post #86
Spivak wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to get too meta but undermining reviews is also a tactic used by companies to manipulate sales because if you don’t trust any reviews but still have to make a decision you’re going to go with a “safe” “established” brand which usually means whoever has the most mindshare.

I see how that argument would work for Sealy, Simmons and Serta. I don't see how this would work for Casper or any of the other no-name mattress-in-a-box company.

For younger people who want easy choices I have 100% seen this lead people to default to Casper. I send around the article on their practices regularly due to this, and buy my mattresses off Wayfair mostly based on price and basic sanity checking.

Right now I have an incredible 14 inches of Queen memory foam I got for $400 that's incredible to sleep on. The brand? A no name.

What I've taken away from the mattress craziness is that if you exclude the fancy things like temperature adjustment and sleep number stuff, most basic mattresses come down to basic material and then secondly firmness. As long as you get those two things right they kinda all seem to be the same.

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Post by someonehere »

Casper’s return policy is wasteful.

100 nights or your money back. After two days we didn’t like the mattress. Emailed support and told them we weren’t happy with it. The next day 1800 Junk truck came out and trashed the mattress. So essentially their returned mattresses go into the landfill and become waste if you’re not happy with it.

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Post by tesmar2 »

We tried the memory-foam-in-a-box mattresses and they were not good (leesa - I suspect Casper is similar.). We just ordered and received a latex mattress from Arizona (https://www.mattresses.net) and it's so much better. I don't work for or have any affiliation with them, I just hope this helps someone else.

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Post by xenospn »

AJ007 wrote: post #79
sfblah wrote: post #41

When I was 23 and doing startups full time, I slept on a hardwood floor with just a blanket and a pillow. Helped me to get up in the morning and do work, did nothing bad for my body as far as I can tell.

That's ridiculous that you were down voted. My brother slept on a rock hard bed as a kid and is able to sleep on the floor, without a pillow, all night no problem. The soft bed thing is more of a cultural issue than a biological necessity.

Anyone who has ever been to bootcamp can tell you that it really doesn't matter where you sleep if you're REALLY tired. I would sleep on the ground if they let me. I would fall asleep sitting down, then stand up and fall asleep again. And when I did finally go back to my tent to sleep on my 50 year old army bed in a used sleeping bag, it was the best sleep I ever had.

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Post by xenospn »

newnewpdro wrote: post #58
sfblah wrote: post #41

When I was 23 and doing startups full time, I slept on a hardwood floor with just a blanket and a pillow. Helped me to get up in the morning and do work, did nothing bad for my body as far as I can tell.

I've slept on a carpeted floor for decades, zero back issues. Just one night sleeping on a conventional mattress leaves me with weird back pains and a stiff neck. Not only are they costly and a PITA to move, mattresses waste a lot of space too. Traditional Japanese tatami mats are basically the same thing in terms of flatness and hardness, they're not known for having sleep/back troubles.

I absolutely loved sleeping in Japan and Korea. Tatami on heated floors is an absolute pleasure.

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Post by ericd »

uwuhn wrote: post #63
mundo wrote: post #35

I bought a latex mattress several years ago, and will never buy another mattress. (Literally, they last 50+ years) Feels great, available in a range of firmness, no weird smells, never deforms, doesn't get hot, and naturally insect/mold resistant. I think I paid 1300 USD for a king size. I know that's only tangentially relevant to the topic at hand, I'm just mentioning this since I had trouble finding much info on th…

Which brand? I've never considered a latex mattress, and I need to replace my current one soon.

I really like our SleepOnLatex mattresses (https://sleeponlatex.com). They're yet another mattress-in-a-box company, and the name is kind of bad, but the mattresses are very high quality AFAICT - UL Greenguard Gold/Oekotex certified for low emissions, organic wool covers rather than chemical retardants to meet fire standards. And they're extremely reasonably priced to boot ($800 for a queen).

No affiliation, just a very happy customer. Never tested their customer service/returns/etc, so I don't know how good they are there.

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Post by tesmar2 »

mundo wrote: post #35

I bought a latex mattress several years ago, and will never buy another mattress. (Literally, they last 50+ years) Feels great, available in a range of firmness, no weird smells, never deforms, doesn't get hot, and naturally insect/mold resistant. I think I paid 1300 USD for a king size. I know that's only tangentially relevant to the topic at hand, I'm just mentioning this since I had trouble finding much info on th…

We just bought one from Arizona (https://www.mattresses.net - no affiliation) and it's been fantastic. Sleeps really cool.

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Post by whyenot »

discardable_dan wrote: post #69
codingslave wrote: post #68

The trick is that there are a bunch of mattress companies on Amazon selling really cheap foam mattresses (~200$) that are basically the same as Casper. But Casper jammed a ton of money into branding and marketing, so probably has great margins on their products. Foam mattresses as a product are getting extremely cheap and the quality is really not bad. I have a cheap one and honestly like sleeping on it more than 120…

Can you recommend any of these cheap Amazon alternatives?

I bought an AmazonBasics memory foam mattress about 15 months ago and have been happy with it. I think I paid about $240 for it.
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