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Re: Amazon CodeGuru – Preview

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Post by GordonS » Tue, Dec 03, 2019, 11:19 PM UTC

mavsman wrote: post #14

efdee wrote: post #2

Poor naming choice, considering CodeGuru.com has been around for what, decades?

I worked on the relaunch of Cloud9 --> AWS Cloud9 and there was an extensive naming process shortly before the launch of the service, both for AWS Cloud9 and for the term "environments" (which was previously workspaces). I can tell you that there were lots of managers, PMs, directors, etc involved and they considered tons of naming options. They took into account third party services/products, first party services/pr…

> just wanted to point out that this was not an oversight

With codeguru.com being a long established site, doesn't that make it worse?

Re: Amazon CodeGuru – Preview

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Post by sheeshkebab » Tue, Dec 03, 2019, 11:26 PM UTC

dakna wrote: post #116

So let me get this straight: Amazon packages open source software (Linux, Postgres etc) in a way that is an abstracted service (RDS, EBS, Elastic Load Balancer). They add so many abstracted building blocks that you need a special skill set to manage them (Aws Certified Solutions Architect) instead of knowing how to do this with bare metal or a container image running in your own data center. And now that things are c…

Maybe at some point there will be an antitrust lawsuit to unbundle them - and say have compute or storage be provided by a different vendor, all from within their aws management console.

Re: Amazon CodeGuru – Preview

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Post by antonhag » Tue, Dec 03, 2019, 11:30 PM UTC

gregdunn wrote: post #93

Disclaimer: I work at AWS on an unrelated team. I was not involved in development of this product. Opinions stated are my own, and not necessarily a reflection of my employer. Nothing here is being posted in any sort of official capacity. There's lots of focus here in the comments on the code reviewer portion, but one of the things I'm most excited about is the profiler - https://aws.amazon.com/codeguru/features/ I d…

Yes, indeed! Especially when paired with an continuously running profiler, one can learn quite a bit about one's code. It's actually rather surprising to me that they have not quite caught on earlier.

A bit of an (almost) shameless plug is a project I have been working on at https://blunders.io. A bit similar to the Code Guru profiler, but with a different feature set.

Re: Amazon CodeGuru – Preview

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Post by quin3 » Tue, Dec 03, 2019, 11:47 PM UTC

redler wrote: post #110

One of their screenshot examples flags inefficient code in crypto libraries, and the suggested "fix" is "Evaluate switching to the Amazon Corretto Crypto Provider ACCP". I don't know enough about the subject matter area to know whether that's the right move, but it's interesting that CodeGuru is apparently, among other things, an opportunity to pay Amazon to upsell you on replacing some of your code with one of the p…

In the future, You should do a quick search before naysaying. This crypto lib is free and offers non-negligible performance gains.

Re: Amazon CodeGuru – Preview

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Post by NegativeLatency » Tue, Dec 03, 2019, 11:51 PM UTC

quin3 wrote: post #124

redler wrote: post #110

One of their screenshot examples flags inefficient code in crypto libraries, and the suggested "fix" is "Evaluate switching to the Amazon Corretto Crypto Provider ACCP". I don't know enough about the subject matter area to know whether that's the right move, but it's interesting that CodeGuru is apparently, among other things, an opportunity to pay Amazon to upsell you on replacing some of your code with one of the p…

In the future, You should do a quick search before naysaying. This crypto lib is free and offers non-negligible performance gains.

It's still increasing your dependence on AWS systems and software.

(The upsell price may be free for now, but who knows maybe they add a premium version or enterprise features in the future)

I imagine that the tool will be used for recommending more amazon services in the future, and this is possibly a poor POC of more to come.

Re: Amazon CodeGuru – Preview

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Post by Sebguer » Tue, Dec 03, 2019, 11:58 PM UTC

NegativeLatency wrote: post #125

quin3 wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the future, You should do a quick search before naysaying. This crypto lib is free and offers non-negligible performance gains.

It's still increasing your dependence on AWS systems and software. (The upsell price may be free for now, but who knows maybe they add a premium version or enterprise features in the future) I imagine that the tool will be used for recommending more amazon services in the future, and this is possibly a poor POC of more to come.

It's not an AWS system or service at all though...

This is like saying that using React will lead you to be locked into Facebook?

Re: Amazon CodeGuru – Preview

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Post by ghostpepper » Wed, Dec 04, 2019, 12:05 AM UTC

Sebguer wrote: post #126

NegativeLatency wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's still increasing your dependence on AWS systems and software. (The upsell price may be free for now, but who knows maybe they add a premium version or enterprise features in the future) I imagine that the tool will be used for recommending more amazon services in the future, and this is possibly a poor POC of more to come.

It's not an AWS system or service at all though... This is like saying that using React will lead you to be locked into Facebook?

Why does it have Amazon in the name then? Amazon Coretto?

Re: Amazon CodeGuru – Preview

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Post by quin3 » Wed, Dec 04, 2019, 12:06 AM UTC

Sebguer wrote: post #126

NegativeLatency wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's still increasing your dependence on AWS systems and software. (The upsell price may be free for now, but who knows maybe they add a premium version or enterprise features in the future) I imagine that the tool will be used for recommending more amazon services in the future, and this is possibly a poor POC of more to come.

It's not an AWS system or service at all though... This is like saying that using React will lead you to be locked into Facebook?

Why does Google have google in the Guava namespace?

Re: Amazon CodeGuru – Preview

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Post by 013a » Wed, Dec 04, 2019, 12:11 AM UTC

Something doesn't sit right with me concerning their use of "over 10,000" open source projects on Github to train the AI, then immediately turning around and telling those same projects "thanks, that'll be $0.75/100 lines of code scanned."

I feel like this should have a generous free tier for open source projects. I feel that very, very strongly.

Re: Amazon CodeGuru – Preview

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Post by seibelj » Wed, Dec 04, 2019, 12:15 AM UTC

dakna wrote: post #116

So let me get this straight: Amazon packages open source software (Linux, Postgres etc) in a way that is an abstracted service (RDS, EBS, Elastic Load Balancer). They add so many abstracted building blocks that you need a special skill set to manage them (Aws Certified Solutions Architect) instead of knowing how to do this with bare metal or a container image running in your own data center. And now that things are c…

Amazon has made scalable, performant, high-availability systems constructable by a 10 person team that serves millions or even billions of people. Before AWS it took thousands of people and billions in capital investment to do so.

Sure, google and Microsoft and IBM joined the party, but AWS was first and remains the best holistically. This is their moment of domination, and eventually something will knock them down, but they have made so many companies so nimble and powerful in ways that were impossible before. Go Amazon.