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Cryptoqueen: A woman scammed the world, then vanished

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Re: Cryptoqueen: A woman scammed the world, then vanished

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orf wrote: post #117

> "I did the calculation how many coins we needed to become the richest person on the planet," Igor says. "I said to Andreea, 'We need to build it up to 100 million coins, because when this coin goes to €100 and we have 100 million, we are richer than Bill Gates.' It's mathematic. It's easy as that." There is an argument to be made here that someone who is that irresponsible, or frankly stupid, has only themselves to…

He was such an odd character. On the one hand he is clearly smart enough to have drawn in enough people into MLM crap that he's a millionaire, and yet he fell for OneCoin.

Re: Cryptoqueen: A woman scammed the world, then vanished

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Post by djhworld »

noneeeed wrote: post #120
imglorp wrote: post #66

The parent scam company, OneLife, still has a webpage up: https://www.onelife.eu/en however its official denial of OneCoin wrong-doing is a 503. Fortunately, that denial, a glorious work on its own, can be seen in cache: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:https:...

Sadly OneLife seems to be powering on. The most depressing part of listening to that podcast was the last episode, when they went to somewhere in Africa (I forget where), and talked to people getting caught up in it. It's spread around the world and is drawing people in everywhere.

Uganda, it's in the article about 3/4 of the way down

Re: Cryptoqueen: A woman scammed the world, then vanished

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Post by TimTayshun »

Lucadg wrote: post #32

a week ago I passed in front the One Coin shop in Sofia. It was open. I was surprised as It had been closed for a long time. I had listened to the BBC podcast and was curious so I tried to enter. It was locked and a lady came to open. There were a couple of people, maybe customers. There were books, CDs and other material. I stayed two minutes and head to the exit. The door was locked and the lady came to open. That'…

Journalist Nikolai Stroyanov from Sofia's Kapitol (newspaper) took the following photos a few days ago, on Nov. 21, indicating what seemed to be a clearing out of the Onecoin offices:

https://twitter.com/Svrakata/status/1197494888457293824

Re: Cryptoqueen: A woman scammed the world, then vanished

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Post by orf »

johnpowell wrote: post #107

I torrent a lot of TV shows. And American Greed popped up a lot. I always dismissed the show until they they recently did a ep on the Fyre festival. I consume every bit of media about the Fyre festival. I Watched the ep about it. Then I saw that American greed is actually one of the best shows on TV. So I set Sonarr to grab every episode. It grabbed 114 of them. And I have now watched them all all. But 80% of the epi…

Is Sonarr good? I use plex and some manual steps, but it looks interesting from their website alone.

Re: Cryptoqueen: A woman scammed the world, then vanished

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Post by TomMarius »

floren wrote: post #72
TomMarius wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is Bitcoin a ponzi scheme? As far as I know it's a distributed database, nothing even remotely related to a ponzi scheme.

Pretty much all cryptocurrencies depend on the promise that early adopters will get in cheap and make a ton of money once it takes off. Get in quick, don't be a sucker! FooCoin is going up uP UP! Now that you're in, convince your friends to buy FooCoin too, and talk it up online--that way demand will increase!

I don't think this is the premise of Bitcoin. This is what some people want it to be or want to make it seem like it is, though, but not really.

Re: Cryptoqueen: A woman scammed the world, then vanished

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Post by TimTayshun »

Mar_1 wrote: post #106
rv-de wrote: post #70

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=638_Jpp2Rq8 :D ... cringe-inducing to the point it could gag a maggot ...

If you are ready for some more cringe, take a look how the ghu-neh-ses block for blockchain v2 was "mined" live, instantly doubling the coin balance for several million members and raising the circulating supply of OneCoin from 2 billion to 120 billions, because that's how cryptos run in the Ponzi land: https://youtu.be/1x7gur0JgkY?t=378

Excerpts:

"And now it starts blinking guys!" (because just BEFORE a block is solved the counter indicates "you're almost there" by blinking. LMFAO!!)

"GO! GO! GO! MINE!"

Re: Cryptoqueen: A woman scammed the world, then vanished

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Post by Klinky »

jacquesm wrote: post #98
justliest wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> People get killed for far less. Sincerely though, if not pop culture, what is this prediction based on? What base rate information do you have about criminals who are extrajudicially executed? What information about who in the criminal underworld knows how much are you conditioning on in order to get a distribution that integrates out to >0.5 here, as opposed to >0.9, or Just based on what’s publicly accessible, it…

I have - or rather had - a cousin who got a bullet in the back of his head courtesy of his best friend for less than $100K. So my base rate may be a bit higher than average but it definitely isn't zero and we're talking very large amounts of money here. Let's turn that around: how many hard core criminals do you know that end up living to a ripe old age? Even Bulger didn't make it and he tried real hard. https://www.…

People get shot over things that amount to less than a minimum wage paycheck, that doesn't mean she is dead. Your example of Bulger is bad, he was 89 at the time of his death, that's 10 years older than the avg European male's lifespan. If John McAfee's still alive, she could also still be alive.

Re: Cryptoqueen: A woman scammed the world, then vanished

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Post by jacquesm »

Klinky wrote: post #128
jacquesm wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have - or rather had - a cousin who got a bullet in the back of his head courtesy of his best friend for less than $100K. So my base rate may be a bit higher than average but it definitely isn't zero and we're talking very large amounts of money here. Let's turn that around: how many hard core criminals do you know that end up living to a ripe old age? Even Bulger didn't make it and he tried real hard. https://www.…

People get shot over things that amount to less than a minimum wage paycheck, that doesn't mean she is dead. Your example of Bulger is bad, he was 89 at the time of his death, that's 10 years older than the avg European male's lifespan. If John McAfee's still alive, she could also still be alive.

> People get shot over things that amount to less than a minimum wage paycheck, that doesn't mean she is dead.

No, just that there is a fair chance.

> Your example of Bulger is bad, he was 89 at the time of his death, that's 10 years older than the avg European male's lifespan.

My point was: and yet he didn't make it. His end wasn't exactly peaceful by any stretch of the imagination and he was an outlier for living that long. He only managed because he laid low for a long time (16 years!), if not for that he'd have been killed in the same manner or worse long before.

Bulger is a bad example for only one reason: he turned information on the Mafia over to the authorities, which is a bit of a career limiting move for a criminal. Note that between his arrival in the penitentiary where he was murdered and his demise only a scant few hours passed.

But still, as you correctly state, he lived to 89, which is older than most and that's why he's exceptional, a hardened criminal, former gang leader able to live to that age is noteworthy.

Re: Cryptoqueen: A woman scammed the world, then vanished

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Post by Klinky »

jacquesm wrote: post #87
Klinky wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This just seems like speculation based on watching mafia movies. The article speculates she's alive. The Ignatov family seems involved in various frauds, so I wouldn't view her as an innocent woman who got in too deep. She knew what she as doing and has family connections. Also I am not sure what "she stands out" even means. Is this a way of saying she's not white? That's not really a problem. In a ton of EMEA countr…

> This just seems like speculation based on watching mafia movies. People get killed for far less. > The article speculates she's alive. And I'm speculating she isn't. > The Ignatov family seems involved in various frauds, so I wouldn't view her as an innocent woman who got in too deep. She knew what she as doing and has family connections. I never said she did not know what she was doing. > Also I am not sure what "…

I think the problem is your "better than even" chance she's "swimming with the fishes", based on little evidence. She doesn't look terribly distinctive. Being in a friendly country around friendly people or even in a neutral country under an assumed identity while being quiet can last you a long time. You do not have to go full Osama bin Laden.
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