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Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin

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Re: Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin

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No competition for Tesla at all, only e-tron is selling here a bit and I think the model 3 and Y will crush it here. In terms of market size, well they have them in Jordan next to us which have the same population size and they don't have half the country working in the tech space as our GDP per capita is way higher.

Well, you probably not very interested in politics, if you was, you would know the answer...

I’m mildly interested in politics and don’t know the answer.

Re: Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin

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I had the impression it was a privatly owned property the owner wanted to use in a more profitable way.

It's owned by the city and last time there were plans about developing it permanently a public vote enacted a law preventing it from being built on.

Ah okay. Someone who grew up in Berlin told me it wasn't owned by the city.

Re: Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin

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Good strategy from Treelon overall. You'll have Tesla producing cars and employing thousands of workers in the U.S, China & Germany so that no one would stifle the company's path towards autonomous EV's. This will produce pressure on Europe to ease for instance the AI regulations and basically removed Customs tax from many other countries because Tesla can send the cars from three different locations. I just don't un…

ROI may be? the market size in Israel is not as big in other countries, so it makes sense to target bigger audience first. Also does Israel have any good local EV manufacturers that can give Tesla any competition?

MobileEye (which was acquired by Intel) does not make cars but is a competitor in autonomous driving technology. They're based in Israel.

Re: Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin

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Good strategy from Treelon overall. You'll have Tesla producing cars and employing thousands of workers in the U.S, China & Germany so that no one would stifle the company's path towards autonomous EV's. This will produce pressure on Europe to ease for instance the AI regulations and basically removed Customs tax from many other countries because Tesla can send the cars from three different locations. I just don't un…

> Here in Israel we don't have Teslas

You might have missed this very recent news:

> International car company Tesla published an ad seeking an operations manager in Israel, thus confirming that it plans to launch significant operations here. [1]

[1] https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/business/tesla-to-launch...

Re: Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin

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Tesla isn't particularly political and there's no Fascist angle?

Tesla is a luxury-good company that collects petabytes of data from public roads daily, is run by a billionaire that regularly makes an ass of himself on Twitter and is vocally anti-union. I'll join the protests myself.

I think I'm missing something here. You'll protest people in Germany getting jobs because the CEO "makes an ass of himself on Twitter"?

Like, why do you care?

Re: Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin

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This was a pure territorial war. I’ve seen the German campaign material, there was no sign of good reasons, at most a lot of misunderstanding of the idea of a startup incubator. I remember how I had to explain the idea to a very vocal campaigner who clearly did not get that Google was not planning to open a big dev center in their kiez after Google gave up. The underlying reason was the fear of rents rising in Kreuzb…

Oi, I live in spandau. It's very green...

You mean like Spandau bei Berlin?

Re: Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin

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Good strategy from Treelon overall. You'll have Tesla producing cars and employing thousands of workers in the U.S, China & Germany so that no one would stifle the company's path towards autonomous EV's. This will produce pressure on Europe to ease for instance the AI regulations and basically removed Customs tax from many other countries because Tesla can send the cars from three different locations. I just don't un…

I will say that Tel Aviv and Haifa both have excellent engineers. As Tesla grows I'd be a bit surprised if they didn't have engineers in Israel. That said, most of the engineering is still based out of Silicon Valley, so that might be why? As a tesla fan and owner, I hope you get your superchargers. I've heard rumors that they've just started seriously producing the supercharger v3 hardware at the Buffalo, NY factory…

They need some good engineers, sure. But what they really need is someone who can produce better welds.

Re: Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin

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They obviously needed to get one built in Europe sooner rather than later to boost marketshare there and stay ahead of demand without needing to ship from China or the US, but why Berlin? Does anyone know if they got subsidies out of it?

Without knowing the backroom deals - Berlin is a nice choice for things because it's like 'East Europe wages' with 'West Europe capabilities'. Germany is a very stable robust economy that might be their #1 'export source' - there's a lot of related knowledge - and in a 'cramped Europe' - the Berlin area is wide open. FYI Berlin has 'wide avenue streets' which are totally unlike most other European places, sometimes i…

Bizarre that this pretty inoffensive comment got flagged to dead. I vouched for you.

Re: Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin

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I will say that Tel Aviv and Haifa both have excellent engineers. As Tesla grows I'd be a bit surprised if they didn't have engineers in Israel. That said, most of the engineering is still based out of Silicon Valley, so that might be why? As a tesla fan and owner, I hope you get your superchargers. I've heard rumors that they've just started seriously producing the supercharger v3 hardware at the Buffalo, NY factory…

They need some good engineers, sure. But what they really need is someone who can produce better welds.

For Y they are just going to stamp the whole frame out in one fell swoop.

> Another new innovation revealed in the patents is a “Multi-Directional Unibody Casting Machine for a Vehicle Frame and Associated Methods.” Musk himself let this cat out of the bag earlier on by revealing the new casting machine will be capable of casting almost the entire body of a Tesla EV in one piece.

> This startling innovation will virtually eliminate the need for a tremendous number of welds across an EV body.

They also reduced the total length of wiring from 1.5km to 100m in the Y.

Re: Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin

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Good strategy from Treelon overall. You'll have Tesla producing cars and employing thousands of workers in the U.S, China & Germany so that no one would stifle the company's path towards autonomous EV's. This will produce pressure on Europe to ease for instance the AI regulations and basically removed Customs tax from many other countries because Tesla can send the cars from three different locations. I just don't un…

>I just don't understand why Tesla is slow in expanding to other countries Tesla is expanding as fast as they can. After huge struggles they finally got their Fremont plant working right. Then they immediately set to work building a plant in China, and got done remarkably fast. Now they are going to build a plant in Europe. Probably next will come India, and then maybe Latin America or the Middle East, and there I su…

Israel is not a good location for a Middle East factory. Most countries in the region will not trade with it, and even those that will, like Jordan and Egypt, do not have free trade or good transportation links with the country.
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