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Dopamine Fasting

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Cal Newport wrote an entire book around this called Digital Minimalism. I encourage folks to take a look. Taking an occasional break is good. Making technology actually work for you is better.

Cal is the OG and deserves credit for popularizing this for a previous generation.

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No, it's so that they can work even more, because "they can't allow themselves NOT to work on weekends".

That's my point - the reasoning in Sepah's article (comment above) is very different from what's portrayed in the NY times article (OP).

Thank you. Please read the original: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/dopamine-fasting-new-silicon-...

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Terribly biased hit piece on Silicon Valley, here is my rebuttal: https://medium.com/@DrSepah/why-the-media-lies-to-you-about-...

I find that graph of media consumption outrageously hard to believe. The average person spends 11 out of 24 hours every day consuming media? People average 4 hours a day watching TV and 1.75 hours a day listening to the radio?

It's on the upper end of estimates I've seen. Other sources say 2-2.5 hours of social media for the average American. It think it's because that source used all kinds of different media sources like radio. That definitely increases my "screentime" hours when I leave Spotify/YouTube music on my phone.

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looks like a form of Ascetism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asceticism

"The point of dopamine fasting is not to encourage monasticism or masochism, Fun, enjoyment, and aesthetic appreciation are an important part of life" https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/dopamine-fasting-new-silicon-...

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Terribly biased hit piece on Silicon Valley, here is my rebuttal: https://medium.com/@DrSepah/why-the-media-lies-to-you-about-...

Your advice seems sensible, but I don't see anything revolutionary about it. It's basic common sense, but I believe that your "sin" was your attempt at rebranding a simple concept, a framework to moderation and withdrawal, into a click-baity term: "dopamine fasting 2.0". It makes it look like yaf (yet another fad) and yaf is tiresome. Yaf is also easy target and an opportunity to sell paper.

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Reading through this, it identifies something that I've seen a lot of people say is a problem, and suggests that the way to solve the problem is simply don't do it sometimes, on a schedule . While that may help, you've basically dedicated a portion of your life to not enjoying your life. Instead, I've taken a different tack. I've chosen to do those addictive things less, but instead of not-doing-fun-things, I do fun…

Who said you should spend a portion of your life not enjoying it? Engaging in a problematic behavior is sometimes enjoyable in the short-term, and usually not in the long. In my dopamine fasting 2.0 approach, I share suggestions of what to do during that time that is deeply satisfying:

"You don't need to “do nothing” or meditate during a dopamine fast (unless you’d like to). Just engage in regular activities that reflect your values:

- Health-Promoting (exercise, cooking) - Leading (helping, serving others) - Relating (talking, bonding over activities) - Learning (reading, listening) - Creating (writing, art)

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/dopamine-fasting-new-silicon-...

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Terribly biased hit piece on Silicon Valley, here is my rebuttal: https://medium.com/@DrSepah/why-the-media-lies-to-you-about-...

Your advice seems sensible, but I don't see anything revolutionary about it. It's basic common sense, but I believe that your "sin" was your attempt at rebranding a simple concept, a framework to moderation and withdrawal, into a click-baity term: "dopamine fasting 2.0". It makes it look like yaf (yet another fad) and yaf is tiresome. Yaf is also easy target and an opportunity to sell paper.

I don't claim it's revolutionary. CBT is a lot of common sense--but as I like to say, "common sense ain't so common."

The original sin of the controversial title is what made it go viral, so it's the price to pay to get it to help more people.

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Cam, I say this as a fellow Psych PhD: shame on you. Your approach is not evidence-based and apparently has little or nothing to do with your publication history, which from what I can tell largely consists of studying behavioral interventions for diabetes prevention (which is an important area!). You are abusing your credentials in order to sell snake oil, and there's no way you're not aware that you're engaging in…

Shame on you for making baseless accusations while hiding behind your pseudoynm. If you have an issue with CBT for behavioral addictions, then criticize the approach, not make ad hominem personal attacks. For the record, I have all my clients call me Cam and only use the honorific online and when being introduced to speak. Step up and tell us your name, instead of being an anonymous coward.

CBT is great. It’s a broad therapeutic framework that can be applied to address a wide spectrum of mental illnesses. Unfortunately, you are using both “CBT” and especially “dopamine” as meaningless buzzwords. One could just as easily substitute in Willhelm Reich's "orgones" wherever you mention "dopamine" and the substance of the article would be essentially unchanged. Pro tip, Cam: science is conducted in peer reviewed journals, not on LinkedIn and Medium.com

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Shame on you for making baseless accusations while hiding behind your pseudoynm. If you have an issue with CBT for behavioral addictions, then criticize the approach, not make ad hominem personal attacks. For the record, I have all my clients call me Cam and only use the honorific online and when being introduced to speak. Step up and tell us your name, instead of being an anonymous coward.

CBT is great. It’s a broad therapeutic framework that can be applied to address a wide spectrum of mental illnesses. Unfortunately, you are using both “CBT” and especially “dopamine” as meaningless buzzwords. One could just as easily substitute in Willhelm Reich's "orgones" wherever you mention "dopamine" and the substance of the article would be essentially unchanged. Pro tip, Cam: science is conducted in peer revie…

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God forbid you do some difficult volunteer work instead of this "putting people down and mocking them" internet commenting. Incidentally, why is it that so many people argue that wealth comes from doing things people value, but then support volunteer work? If it's the case that helping people makes money, all the people needing help should have entrepreneurs all over them, rather than hoping for unpaid volunteers. An…

I do both, and I'm also not sure what your tangent has to do with me.

Then why can't the article person do volunteering and dopamine fasting?

My tangent has nothing to do with you; not everything is to do with you.

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