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Doesn't 1 side support globalism politically though?
Don't you mean 2 sides? Both parties have gone off the globalist cliff.
There are far more than 2 sides.
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#122After the US claimed that Huawei was a national security threat only to drop this claim completely when China started cooperating on trade talks I honestly don't know what to believe anymore.
You're making up facts. US is actively restricting Huawei from doing business with them.
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#123I'll never understand why (a) Vine was shut down, and (b) So many Americans are eager to rush out and use a Chinese social network. I suspect (b) can be explained primarily through ignorance.
I asked my wife’s kid sister, she’s 19 and in college. Her and her boyfriend had no idea about it being Chinese. It was the hot thing at the moment and that’s all they really cared about.
Don't make the mistake of thinking that the Chinese don't know that.
It's long been my opinion that you simply cannot destroy the west without mutually assured destruction, so nukes are out. You can't invade and subsequently operate because Americans will never acquiesce to foreign rule, and we are individually armed.
The only way to undo the US/west is to have it undo itself. Seed dissent and promote divisions and hatred among its people. Maybe I was shielded from this as a kid, but it seems these divisions are hatred are sharply on the rise as of late, and it's not outside the realm of possibility this is due to foreign influence via social networks.
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
The US would require the French company to sell the US subsidiary before China could buy it.
Why would France ever agree to these kind of dictates after US' treatment of the EU in last few years?
They don't need to. US laws apply to US operations. France could declined to operate in US.
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
What incentive do they have on their side to do that? Ignoring the moral argument, which I agree with, there isn't much financial benefit that comes from that, and very few people who make it that high up the chain seem to be influenced by moral arguments. Your argument veers unreasonably so into nationalism; there's no reason they shouldn't instead start investing money in Europe, or one of the dozens of other count…
If they are only incentivized by financial benefit why exactly should they be left in charge? That's like staffing your (historical physical) treasury exclusively with greedy people in the naive belief that they'll all keep an eye on each other.
They shouldn't be left in charge, but they are. No successful attempt has been made to change this in the long run, and no successful attempt has been made to change this in the short run without massive revolution in countries that don't have half the military or mass surveillance structure that the United States does. Capitalism rewards these types, and so does politics, the military, Hollywood, basically everywhere where power structures exist.
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#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
What’s the point here though? America et al also don’t like certain things being published on social media and try stop it from existing on those platforms too.
Do you have an example? The only things I can think of are illegal (like child porn) which everyone should be able to agree should be banned.
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#127I would support a wholesale ban on Chinese acquisitions of American companies until American companies are allowed to acquire Chinese companies (or otherwise operate in China). These ridiculous double standards from China are not free trade, and we should stop pretending it is.
And when that happens you will also demand the committee on foreign investments be disbanded to PREVENT any veto of Chinese purchases.
To avoid said double standards.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committee_on_Foreign_Investm...
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#128I'll never understand why (a) Vine was shut down, and (b) So many Americans are eager to rush out and use a Chinese social network. I suspect (b) can be explained primarily through ignorance.
Despite the initial hype, Vine was super niche and stopped growing. After it was bought, it seems the new owners didn’t have the foresight or patience to evolve the product into something with more mainstream appeal.
The vine brand still has a lot of value. I think twitter will restart it in a couple years. Vine is pure nostalgia, and I think people will flock if it comes back.
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#129Does anyone have any insight into their revenue model? How are they succeeding where Vine failed or are they still just riding investor capital?
Profitability is not required if you are an intelligence asset for the state. In this case, the state is China. Maybe it's legitimately profitable, maybe the Chinese govt is purchasing ads with other companies it owns, maybe the books are entirely cooked. It's hard to tell in China.
You're being downvoted but state subsidies are one of the largest concerns US/EU have with China, so it's a valid point.
Not to say that TikTok doesn't have any revenue at all, they have ads.
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#130While I agree that Chinese soft imperialism is bad, I think it's tremendously funny that Americans are complaining about it now, after years of using military and economic power to enforce a similar imperialism everywhere.