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Re: Soli

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Post by sangnoir »

andreygrehov wrote: post #102
lm28469 wrote: post #58

Not sure what to think about it. Seems awesome at first glance but then the examples are skipping songs and hand waving pokemons. Feels a lot like a solution looking for a problem.

Agreed. If I'm so close to a phone, why would I swipe in the air? I also believe that making those Soli actions requires more muscle energy compared to tapping the screen with one finger.

> If I'm so close to a phone, why would I swipe in the air?

Because you don't want to extract it from your backpack/purst first? Or you are lying in the dark avoiding turning the backlight on but you also badly want to skip that terrible song you hate...

edit: or you're presenting and using your phone on the podium as a remote without breaking eye contact/physically fiddling with the phone/laptop.

Re: Soli

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Post by empath75 »

jasonhong wrote: post #119

I recently showed some videos of Soli in the HCI class I teach. Students immediately hit upon the two major issues I wanted to discuss (I was pretty proud!). The first is learnability. A big problem with gestures is that there is no clear affordance as to what kinds of gestures you can do, or any clear feedback. For feedback, one could couple Soli's input with a visual display, but at that point, it's not clear if th…

Seems like being able to detect eye attention would solve the midas problem -- if you aren't looking at it, it doesn't do anything?

Re: Soli

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Post by snewman »

jasonhong wrote: post #119

I recently showed some videos of Soli in the HCI class I teach. Students immediately hit upon the two major issues I wanted to discuss (I was pretty proud!). The first is learnability. A big problem with gestures is that there is no clear affordance as to what kinds of gestures you can do, or any clear feedback. For feedback, one could couple Soli's input with a visual display, but at that point, it's not clear if th…

As predicted in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: "...an electric pencil flew across the cabin and through the radio's on/off-sensitive airspace."

Re: Soli

#124

Post by m3kw9 »

The screen is right there but you want me to not touch the screen to interact.

Re: Soli

#125

Post by kllrnohj »

meowface wrote: post #83
melling wrote: post #22

Google finally ships a research project in a real product and people don’t seem to understand the usefulness. Human nature for some reason often devolves to “what’s the point?” Here’s the 2015 announcement. There’s a lot of potential. Maybe we’d all benefit from “imagine what’s now possible “ https://youtu.be/0QNiZfSsPc0

It's really cool and innovative technology, but I also struggle to see the point for the common user. If this were a computer monitor or projector screen, sure. But my phone is pretty much always in my hand if it's being used in any way. If it's already in my hand, what do I gain from this? I can see how it'd be very useful for people who mount their phones on some sort of distant stand. But I feel like that's pretty…

Your phone isn't always in your hand. In fact, your phone isn't in your hand for the vast majority of the day most likely. And it's in those scenarios that something like this could be cool if it works well.

If it can detect your presence before you actually pick it up it could do things like fire up the face auth systems to give quicker unlock. It can auto-lock if you set it down and walk away without manually turning it off or waiting for the timeout. If the alarm is going off it can lower the volume if it detects your presence before you actually dismiss or snooze the alarm.

There's all sorts of possibilities for all the times where you are not holding your phone. If it works well, that is.

Re: Soli

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Post by [deleted] »

spectramax wrote: post #51

Those growing up with Remote Controls of the kind: https://i.imgur.com/AIqz63k.jpg After a few days, the user develops a muscle memory of sorts. User doesn't even have to look at the controller and all actions (and feedback) are executed through the tactile interface. From cockpits to nuclear power plants to home tv remote control, there is absolutely nothing that replaces physical buttons, encoders, sliders and togg…

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Re: Soli

#127

Post by Dirlewanger »

crazygringo wrote: post #25

Good lord... this is a really cool piece of technology and half the comments here are just complaints that it will enable better ad tracking or erode privacy or that touch screens are good enough. This is HN. This is cool technology . Can we just stop to appreciate what cool new interfaces or game concepts we might be able to build with this, rather than jumping on the knee-jerk Google hate train?

Unfortunately it's immanently stained by Google's association with it. Plus, it will probably be inexplicably dropped from the phone a couple models down the line.

Re: Soli

#128

Post by anderspitman »

All I want is a small Bluetooth device (maybe wrist-mounted) with a few buttons, a slider, some sort of rotary sensor like a mouse wheel, and accelerometer. Then give me complete control in my phone over how the software interprets the actions.

Re: Soli

#129

Post by warrenmiller »

jasonhong wrote: post #119

I recently showed some videos of Soli in the HCI class I teach. Students immediately hit upon the two major issues I wanted to discuss (I was pretty proud!). The first is learnability. A big problem with gestures is that there is no clear affordance as to what kinds of gestures you can do, or any clear feedback. For feedback, one could couple Soli's input with a visual display, but at that point, it's not clear if th…

Watch the keynote for more information on accidental gestures. They cater for it
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