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Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

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Re: Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

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Post by AstralStorm »

devinmcafee wrote: post #35
caymanjim wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think anyone needs the government's help to know that moving around is better than sitting all day. Whether or not one finds a way to fit that into their routine is a personal choice, but this is common sense.

I don't think people know that simply getting up and walking for 10 minutes every 2 hours would reduce their body fat levels. In fact, I've seen a study [1] which concludes you simply can't undo a days worth of sitting with a vigorous exercise session. I think science is starting to show that frequency of movement is an important part of a healthy lifestyle, not just intensity of movement. Going to the gym after 8 ho…

Weight gain is orthogonal to this, as you could just adjust the diet. You would have to do multiple hours of exercise to lose weight that is not just water.

But the difference for cardiovascular and respiratory systems and especially back and neck muscles is big with something as simple as basic walking exercise.

Exercise is not for weight loss, it's too stay fit and healthy. And yes, small regular exercise beats hard exhausting bursts.

Re: Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

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Post by AstralStorm »

hanniabu wrote: post #79
Bootwizard wrote: post #5

"Public health recommendations promoting physical activity should incorporate advice to avoid periods of sedentary behaviour." How do we interpret and apply information like this? Many people work in front a computer these days so it can't actually be applied to them (read us).

> How do we interpret and apply information like this? Sedentary desk jobs should be considered work hazards and employees should be given desks that can easily be changed to a standing desk and also be allotted a walking break every 15-30min, or install rows of treadmills with an ergonomic laptop holder.

In Poland, such a break is codified in law for sedentary workers. (But it's shorter and you get to distribute it yourself.)

The problem is finding space to walk in. Most offices are not designed for hiking.

Re: Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

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Post by AstralStorm »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #99
JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #91

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It's not a minor dysfunction. >Pooling data from both groups, following step reduction there was a significant decrease in whole-body insulin sensitivity (Matsuda index) (p Those are incredible p values to find in a human study.

But, as I original pointed out, it's mitigated by maintaining a non-extreme level of activity - throwing on ~10,000 steps is the difference here.

I wonder how it reacts to walking on stairs. Less steps, more, or the same?

Re: Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

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Post by AstralStorm »

ska wrote: post #62
hohoho12345 wrote: post #15

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I agree with the guy above you; the results of their hypothesis were already very well known. Everyone realizes that getting less exercise decreases calories burned in a day. These studies need to start going further in depth than just reading that your health gets worse if you stop exercising.

I think you and the guy above are missing a key point in this paper, the emphasis on "Short Term" in the title. While most people realize that a sedentary lifestyle has issues, it will surprise a lot of people that a typically active person who is sedentary for 2w (e.g. an injury, a deadline at work, whatever) might have measurable metabolic changes...

It's kind of obvious, I got a weird pneumonia, and even when interspersing walking for and hour or more I'm starting to feel my back muscles getting sore just from lying in a bed and sitting for most of the day.

This has been just over two weeks. And the weather is now cold so I cannot take longer walks.

(On the other hand, diet is even more adjusted so I lost weight rapidly.)

Re: Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

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Post by astura »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #32
onemoresoop wrote: post #18

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Kudos but it's not even necessary to go that far, basically sitting down and being indoors all day long is the culprit and incorporating more walking activities in our daily lives would be a good start. Pushups and exercises are good on the body but are not addressing root of the problem, they're merely ways to cope with it.

I like the idea of a standup desk with a slow treadmill underneath: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE0JtUeyVJA (Linus Torvalds Guides Tour of His Home Office)

I've tried playing video games (RPGs) on the treadmill and it's incredibly distracting, I can't imagine trying to code on one.

Re: Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

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Post by jobigoud »

Bootwizard wrote: post #5

"Public health recommendations promoting physical activity should incorporate advice to avoid periods of sedentary behaviour." How do we interpret and apply information like this? Many people work in front a computer these days so it can't actually be applied to them (read us).

Anytime I have to think about an issue I need to step away from the screen. I work from home and usually unless I'm actively typing or looking at references I'm walking around thinking about stuff.

Re: Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

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Post by agota »

devinmcafee wrote: post #35
caymanjim wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think anyone needs the government's help to know that moving around is better than sitting all day. Whether or not one finds a way to fit that into their routine is a personal choice, but this is common sense.

I don't think people know that simply getting up and walking for 10 minutes every 2 hours would reduce their body fat levels. In fact, I've seen a study [1] which concludes you simply can't undo a days worth of sitting with a vigorous exercise session. I think science is starting to show that frequency of movement is an important part of a healthy lifestyle, not just intensity of movement. Going to the gym after 8 ho…

This study looks interesting, thank you!

Re: Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

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Post by marble-drink »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #32
onemoresoop wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kudos but it's not even necessary to go that far, basically sitting down and being indoors all day long is the culprit and incorporating more walking activities in our daily lives would be a good start. Pushups and exercises are good on the body but are not addressing root of the problem, they're merely ways to cope with it.

I like the idea of a standup desk with a slow treadmill underneath: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE0JtUeyVJA (Linus Torvalds Guides Tour of His Home Office)

Yeah but I am sceptical about being able to enter truly deep thought while walking. I wonder how much work Torvalds actually does on it. He doesn't actually write much kernel code these days so might not need deep thought as much any more.

Re: Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

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Post by bigmit37 »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #107
graeme wrote: post #7

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The study had people walk 10,000 fewer steps in a day. So, walking more would reverse it if the study was right. In practice it would mean taking periodic breaks to walk around a bit, and trying to arrange things such that you could walk some of your commute, or walk to the store, etc Obviously harder for people in suburbia.

Does that follow though? They took 10,000 fewer steps away, yes, but was there actually any judgement in how those steps were gained/lost? I'm curious if the same effect as those 10,0000 steps could be found simply by going out for an hour walk and still sitting for the rest.

I was also disappointed in the lack of solution as well. We know more exercise is better, how how much would be needed if we have be on the computer 8 hrs a day etc. Couid 5-10 mins every hour of walking prevent these issues etc.

Re: Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

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Post by zebraflask »

notadoc wrote: post #43

Obvious studies crack me up. It is a shame that PE is continuously being removed from many K12 school curriculums. If you get people into the habit of exercising and being active when they're young it's much easier to maintain that habit into the future.

Very true. Everybody used to grouse at those 7 AM PE classes when I was in high school, which have since been cut from what I've heard, but they really did get kids in the habit of assuming that regular exercise is just an expected thing that people do.
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