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Tom Delonge’s UFO Research Center Is Making Politicians Demand Answers

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Post by erik_landerholm »

ceejayoz wrote: post #120
erik_landerholm wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So Captain Fravor is s liar? He claims to of seen the tic-tac and chased it. So if it’s a secret jet, he’s a liar, or we developed anti-gravity tech in secrecy somehow.

Members of the military are required at times to lie to preserve secrets. Anyone in-the-know asked about the F-117, for example, would've been required by law to deny its existence. There's another possibility, too; he's human, and humans frequently make mistakes. Eyewitness reports are incredibly unreliable.

Have you actually listened to any of his long form interviews? He’s either lying or telling the truth. No way, he just made a mistake. Oh and his WSO is lying, people on the Princeton, people in the DOD, etc.

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Post by ceejayoz »

erik_landerholm wrote: post #121
ceejayoz wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Members of the military are required at times to lie to preserve secrets. Anyone in-the-know asked about the F-117, for example, would've been required by law to deny its existence. There's another possibility, too; he's human, and humans frequently make mistakes. Eyewitness reports are incredibly unreliable.

Have you actually listened to any of his long form interviews? He’s either lying or telling the truth. No way, he just made a mistake. Oh and his WSO is lying, people on the Princeton, people in the DOD, etc.

People who are genuinely mistaken about something may talk very earnestly about what they believe they saw.

And, again, the military lying to uncleared civilians is hardly without precedent.

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Post by i_feel_great »

awad wrote: post #96
i_feel_great wrote: post #84

I have always wondered why the US government never took advantage of this sort of thing to make serious money. Just think of a massive extraterrestrial-themed resort in the desert in the vicinity of Area 51. Think of all the licensing deals.

That's not really the business they're in but nothing stopping you from doing it!

I already thought of that but it would be difficult because it is far less "believable" if an individual manufactured these things than if the government did it.

That is why things like all those Lochness Monster hotels go broke all the time. People start disbelieving that stuff quickly.

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Post by gfodor »

michaelmrose wrote: post #37
rblion wrote: post #13

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It's interesting for sure. It's a mystery. Could be intentional misdirection by the government, could be beings from another planet or dimension, could be something I can't even wrap my brain around.

It's arguable that beings from another world actually exist although we now know that absent almost surely impossible ftl getting here would be a tremendous effort rendering the supposition that explorers are just popping in quite silly. Far from improving the situation positing other dimensions which we have no proof exist, and beings that we have no proof even can exist seems to make the theory much weaker not stro…

Not if they are unmanned subluminal probes that are really old and took thousands of years to get here. /pet theory

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Post by edoo »

Rebelgecko wrote: post #43
kart23 wrote: post #26

I think theres two possibilities that are believable for me. I dont think its 'aliens' or other extraterrestrials. Either it is completely fake, made up by the navy to hide something else that they wanted to cover up, and could also serve as a confusion tactic for other countries aerospace programs, some sort of fake internal thing to tease out a mole or another situation like that. The other possibility is that it r…

What about a third option, it's a visual artifact on the FLIR recording?

What about a fourth option, multiple lasers projecting holograms.

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Post by godelski »

Reading the linked Vice article

>"Based on pilot accounts, encounters with these UAPs (unidentified aerial phenomena) often involved complex flight patterns and advanced maneuvering, which demand extreme advances in quantum mechanics, nuclear science, electromagnetics, and thermodynamics.” - Walker

> Republican representative Mark Walker of North Carolina

This is laughably stupid. QM and nuclear science? Can we call out politicians for just throwing in words that they don't know what they mean? Seriously, I think we should call these people out. I'll even laugh at the extreme part.

My bet is that these things are just some test drones. They might have advanced materials and so you can't trust a lot of the data coming into the FLIR sensor. I don't think it would surprise anyone here that the people making the "most advanced sensors on the market" 1) have more advanced sensors being researched/tested 2) don't perform adversarial attacks on those sensors during testing. As for the visuals, well drones can pull Gs that pilots can't. So if we can't trust the sensor readings (speed and size) and we just see something zipping around, it shouldn't surprise anyone that a drone _could_ be the culprit.

As to the article, this is clearly misdirection. But that's part of warfare. https://youtu.be/qOTYgcdNrXE?t=1281

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Post by Pokepokalypse »

godelski wrote: post #126

Reading the linked Vice article >"Based on pilot accounts, encounters with these UAPs (unidentified aerial phenomena) often involved complex flight patterns and advanced maneuvering, which demand extreme advances in quantum mechanics, nuclear science, electromagnetics, and thermodynamics.” - Walker > Republican representative Mark Walker of North Carolina This is laughably stupid. QM and nuclear science? Can we call…

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Post by cronix »

erik_landerholm wrote: post #108
vokep wrote: post #49

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This. It fits a lot of aspects of past "UFO" sightings that were actually just a reflection. The major issue in this case is multiple witnesses, and also supposedly multiple instruments detecting it (I've seen this claimed in comments but not the evidence itself) If the thing behaves as though it has no inertia and does all these amazing movements, what else does? A reflection or otherwise illusory object can do all…

How do you explain the pilots who said they saw it visually for 5 minutes?

And on other radar systems within the strike carrier group. The Nimitz event was tracked on multiple systems of varying technologies, for multiple days, not just the planes. FLIR was just one piece of the puzzle, of which video was released.
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