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Can I Email: ‘Can I Use’ for email

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Re: Can I Email: ‘Can I Use’ for email

#121

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HTML in email helps readability, titles, lists, tables does help the recipient.

Nothing that cannot more elegantly be solved by using MarkDown ... ... or common sense.

I don't want to parse Markdown when I read emails.

(and I don't have common sense either)

Re: Can I Email: ‘Can I Use’ for email

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post #46

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Everything that discourages designers from doing fancy things is good in my book.

You don't get it. Stuff like this does not discourage designers. It is what gets them jobs and keeps them employed. I've worked with marketing departments where it was a designer's primary job to make things look good on email campaigns.

Indeed, if it's possible, marketing is going to ask for it. And unless you have dedicated developers who specialize in email campaigns, ready to brave the nightmare that is fighting against email client formatting, the only sane and cost-effective solution to implement any kind of layout in an email is simply stacking inline images with text included.

Re: Can I Email: ‘Can I Use’ for email

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post #85

Why using plain text is better: - readable under any mail client and any text editor - smaller size files - safer - better accessibility and compatibility with screen readers

I don't get why plain text would be more accessible than a well-formed HTML email. A screen reader could say "this is a title", "this is a list item".

In plain text, what do you get? "dash bla bla"? Though I hope screen reader are more intelligent than that, but it seems like a more complex problem than just using information given by a well-formed HTML text.

Re: Can I Email: ‘Can I Use’ for email

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post #117

I've spent a year of my life working on a front-end for visual composer tool for emails, and it was a horrible experience, time-travel back to IE6 era. I wish there was some tool like this back then, I'd probably keep it open in a tab all the time. We desperately need for someone to finally win this mail client war and some standardization to emerge.

IIRC CampaignMonitor has had a pretty good resource for many years: https://www.campaignmonitor.com/css/

yes, them and Email on Acid were the best sources on what's supported where.

Re: Can I Email: ‘Can I Use’ for email

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It would be really nice to have a small and simple markup language, say some markdown standard, to be the layouting language for E-Mails. No (external) images, just links, lists, headings, basic formatting. HTML E-Mails are a security nightmare, even if "only" CSS is "allowed" and JS/iframes/external images are not loaded.

No markdown, but we had success with this one: https://mjml.io/ Try out the online examples.

We use https://foundation.zurb.com/emails.html It is essentially rows and columns, but the support has been great across Outlook and gmail, as well as mobile support.

Re: Can I Email: ‘Can I Use’ for email

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post #9

Christ on a bike, the state of Outlook on Windows is absolutely miserable. I knew it by experience when I started preparing HTML signatures for our company, but seeing the list makes me even sadder about the absolute state of incompetency caused by legacy systems in Microsoft. For those uninformed, Outlook on Windows effectively works on a terrible (and terribly old) implementation of HTML that was initially develope…

I believe Outlook still uses the Microsoft Frontpage html engine.

For those who don’t know, it’s was Microsoft WYSIWYG website builder that looked similar to Word, from 20 years ago.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_FrontPage

Re: Can I Email: ‘Can I Use’ for email

#129

You send me anything other than plain text in an email, and I don't already have a source filter for your address, it gets sent to a folder that I might look at if I have the time some day.

How do you filter for plain text (look)? Given that most clients will send html version along with the plain text?

Re: Can I Email: ‘Can I Use’ for email

#130
My goodness, this HTML in email things could cost you a job. I was burnout once by making 30 emails with variable layout work across popular email clients and screen sizes. Can I Email is definitely needed. But I will never do these fancy marketing emails ever again. Use plain text to communicate for your whatever incoming campaigns. Or if we really want HTML just use it without stylesheet, just plain tags.
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