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Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by dragonwriter »

anthonybsd wrote: post #118
dijit wrote: post #40

Every year I wait on bated breath at the release of a similarly compact phone to the SE. I even recently bought a new one right before they removed them from the store, so I have 2 year apple care+ for it to tide me over. Ordinarily I would vote with my wallet, but there are no compact Android phones either. Ironically I still own a Oneplus One which is quite old by todays standards; and I distinctly remember it bein…

>Oneplus One which is quite old by todays standards; and I distinctly remember it being called a "Phablet" due to it's obtuse stature in comparison to its contemporaries Wait what? This doesn't make sense. I remember getting OnePlus as well (bought it for a friend in Europe) and the screen size was pretty mainstream at that point. It had 5.46" size. It got released the same year Apple released 6+ which had bigger scr…

Er, all of your examples except maybe the HTC and the Droid Turbo and the iPhone are labelled Phablets (and Apple only because they seem to be immune to the label); the Galaxy Note series is original phablet line and the OnePlus One was bigger than the contemporary iteration of that line.

Your list reinforces the point you are using it to argue against.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by geerlingguy »

theshrike79 wrote: post #102
sramsay wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A thousand times this. My absolute number one requirement (after things like, um, the ability to make phone calls) is that it fit in my front-left pocket. I didn't upgrade to the last model for this reason and no other. But I can only assume that Apple does plenty of market research on their products, so I assume people aren't checking off "the thing is too damn big" under "reasons I didn't upgrade?"

I've had the 8+ and now XS in my front left pocket just fine. Maybe buy some looser pants? =)

I can fit the larger phones (though still prefer the SE size), but my wife has demonstrated how even the SE is often spilling out of whatever pocket or other way-smaller device holding pocket is on her clothing items. Unless fashion trends change, or everyone who uses purses goes for some giant bag (and likes keeping their phones in a bag, not on their person), there is a large number of people who could use a smaller phone.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by allannienhuis »

dijit wrote: post #74
RJIb8RBYxzAMX9u wrote: post #62

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> (also, I wonder how women get on, since generally they have smaller hands than men.) PopSockets. In my neck of the woods they are almost as common as phone cases. Some men also use them.

https://www.urbanoutfitters.com/shop/popsockets-tortoise-she... Oh wow, this is horrible.

my wife swears by hers - makes it much more comfortable to hold while thumb-scrolling. She's not really one to put her phone in her pocket, though. If it's not in her hand or put down beside her, it's in her purse.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by masklinn »

TylerE wrote: post #77
dpflan wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, like an iPhone X but the size of the SE. Cursory Google searching for comparing SE vs X Display sizes: - SE: 4.0" (10.16 cm) - X: 5.8" (14.73 cm) (source: https://www.gadgetsnow.com/compare-mobile-phones/Apple-iPhon... ) X's display is 45% larger, but the phone's total size is larger too.

The actual device, while larger, isn't much. Like a half inch in length, and a quarter inch in width.

> The actual device, while larger, isn't much. Like a half inch in length, and a quarter inch in width.

You're off by almost a factor of 2, and furthermore that makes these increases significant in relative terms.

The 5S is 4.87"x2.31", the X is 5.65"x2.79", that's +0.78"/+16% in height and much worse +0.48"/+21% in width.

The phone is more "surface efficient" (phone diagonals goes from 5.4" to 6.3", or a 0.9" (and 16%) increase where the screen increased by 1.8") but it's still significantly bigger.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by vadansky »

dijit wrote: post #40

Every year I wait on bated breath at the release of a similarly compact phone to the SE. I even recently bought a new one right before they removed them from the store, so I have 2 year apple care+ for it to tide me over. Ordinarily I would vote with my wallet, but there are no compact Android phones either. Ironically I still own a Oneplus One which is quite old by todays standards; and I distinctly remember it bein…

I keep having to ask this every thread, but you know you can double tap the home button and it will bring the screen half way down so you can reach easier. I have no problem using my 8 one handed, and can even use it one handed while biking

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by temuze »

cpuguy83 wrote: post #48
temuze wrote: post #9

Mostly, I hope they bring TouchID back, preferably via a scanner on the back of the phone. Outside of providing a bigger screen, FaceID is strictly worse: - When I pulled my old iPhone out of my pocket, I would have my finger on the scanner and it would be unlocked before it reached my face. With FaceID on the iPhone X, I have to wait a few seconds. - If you wake up and you're squinting as you look at your phone, Fac…

Sounds like you have the more secure mode active which requires attention to unlock. You can disable this so it doesn't care about attention.

Wow, I didn't know this! Thanks!

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by masklinn »

sp332 wrote: post #94
dpflan wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, like an iPhone X but the size of the SE. Cursory Google searching for comparing SE vs X Display sizes: - SE: 4.0" (10.16 cm) - X: 5.8" (14.73 cm) (source: https://www.gadgetsnow.com/compare-mobile-phones/Apple-iPhon... ) X's display is 45% larger, but the phone's total size is larger too.

The bezels are completely different, so comparing screen sizes is misleading. The outer dimensions of the iPhone X are 5.65 x 2.79 inches, iPhone SE is 4.87 x 2.31 inches. That's 0.78 inches taller and 0.48 inches wider.

Which is 20% wider and 16% taller. It's very noticeable, especially the width.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by joecool1029 »

labster wrote: post #86

My work bought me an "upgrade" to the XR, as my SE is starting to show some battery issues. But after a day of playing with the XR, I put it back in the box to send back to Apple. Compared to the SE, the XR is 50% heavier -- even without a case. It doesn't have a good edge to hold onto being so thin, so it makes you want to hold on by the front. But every corner of the front of the device is a UI element that you can…

> If my SE breaks, I'll probably just pull my iPhone 1 out of storage

Fix it? The guides (and tools) from ifixit are great, screen will take a couple hours at most if you don't have shaky hands. Battery isn't too hard of a swap either.

If it's a screen, working pulls are like $30 from ebay. I don't recommend the aftermarket ones as the colors skew cold. My girlfriend's on her third SE screen now (we don't like cases) and it's still way cheaper than buying a replacement phone.

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