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Re: Emacs 26.3

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Post by kwhitefoot »

Phenix88be wrote: post #72
dragonsh wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally for me spacemacs is bit slower in startup for my liking, so I use my own custom configuration. It's just lisp at the end of the day. Also for people who prefer emacs keys instead of vi, they can start with emacs-prelude package. But it will be hard to beat custom configuration in long run.

> Personally for me spacemacs is bit slower in startup for my liking I have see this many times and never understood how startup time could be an issue. I startup Spacemacs at the beginning of the day, and close it when I leave. 10 second of startup time is nothing.

I never close Emacs unless I am shutting down the machine and that happens, perhaps once every month or two.

Re: Emacs 26.3

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Post by dmortin »

grogenaut wrote: post #118
dmortin wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want to write a new command for vscode then you have to register it in contribution points in the editor which is done in a json file. I don't know if you can do that dynamically and if you can't then you can't create a quick throwaway editing command either. I very often write few lines of temporary commands if I have to do some mass editing which can be automated. With vscode I'd have to do it in python or s…

Can a contribution point run commands from a random file?

I'd say no, but I'm certainly not a vscode expert.

Re: Emacs 26.3

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Post by jwkane »

non-entity wrote: post #84
dragonsh wrote: post #18

Great job a very good example of programmable editor. Emacs had been my work horse since 2002 and never disappointed. In the meantime tried many ide only vim and emacs stayed with me. Sometimes do use nano and sublime text but then back to either emacs or vi. All those shiny IDE based on electron, Java or C++ are just too slow to be productive be it VScode, atom or eclipse or visual studio or kdevelop. I am forced to…

The one thing that keeps me from moving lightweight editors like vim or emacs from the bloated IDE stuff if the ability to easily find definitions, etc. If I have hundreds or thousands of source files and I want to find the definition of say a struct or function, being able to right click->go to definition or similar is a godsend. Maybe emacs or vim have similar features via plugins though? I'm not sure.

lightweight editors like emacs... The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again.

Re: Emacs 26.3

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Post by marrone12 »

jwkane wrote: post #123
non-entity wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The one thing that keeps me from moving lightweight editors like vim or emacs from the bloated IDE stuff if the ability to easily find definitions, etc. If I have hundreds or thousands of source files and I want to find the definition of say a struct or function, being able to right click->go to definition or similar is a godsend. Maybe emacs or vim have similar features via plugins though? I'm not sure.

lightweight editors like emacs... The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again.

Is Emacs Lews Therin Telamon?

Re: Emacs 26.3

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Post by jjrh »

kldsksdkl wrote: post #76
dragonsh wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally for me spacemacs is bit slower in startup for my liking, so I use my own custom configuration. It's just lisp at the end of the day. Also for people who prefer emacs keys instead of vi, they can start with emacs-prelude package. But it will be hard to beat custom configuration in long run.

You can also have emacs run as a daemon(1). That way you never have to wait. 1 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Emacs#As_a_daemon

This is the /real/ killer feature for me that I would find very difficult to live without and I don't know of any other editors that offer this functionality.

Being able to remotely open my editor (either from a terminal, or with X11 forwarding) with all the files I have open, exactly where I left off is incredibly useful.

Re: Emacs 26.3

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Post by catacombs »

roryrjb wrote: post #28

I recently tried to seriously use Emacs over my usual Vim. Mainly because I've got so used to the GNU readline emacs shortcuts in the terminal and quite like the idea of not having to switch between command and insert mode, but damn after looking into some configuration options it really is a massively complicated piece of software, I mean not to start using it, it's probably easier than Vim but just looking at all t…

> I recently tried to seriously use Emacs over my usual Vim.

For the fellow Vimmer, I suggest Doom Emacs. I'm using it to type this message now! Yes, it's a distribution with many batteries included, but you can eliminate what you don't need. It's quite flexible, and the dev is very responsive.

I recently dropped Vim and going with vanilla Emacs. I reconfigured my current Emacs/evil-mode config and took out everything evil related.

For the next few days I painstakingly worked through the keys. By the end of the week, I had enough. I felt too slow and my hands started aching ironically. My current Linux environment relies on me to easily switch between windows with HJKL and other shortcuts I've instituted over the years. Also, I work on two different keyboards. Both work fine with evil-mode, but one required some serious rebinding just to use vanilla Emacs.

I returned to evil mode and feel right at home. I did take some things with me, such as C-a/e for moving to the beginning and end of a line and C-d and C-k for deleting characters and lines, respectively.

I'd love to hear from Vim and Emacs users on why they preferred Emacs' bindings over Vim's, if that ever happened.

Re: Emacs 26.3

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Post by bashmydotfiles »

longtom wrote: post #5

Any improvements for the Windows GUI ? I find it to work better with WSL and VcXsrv.

This is what I use and to be honest, I don't see any reason to use the windows version /at all/ for Emacs. WSL and VcXsrv requires minimal set up and works right away for me.

I used to have code in my config files to try and handle different paths, etc. when I was in windows vs linux and now I don't have to worry about that anymore.

Re: Emacs 26.3

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Post by roryrjb »

gumby wrote: post #116
roryrjb wrote: post #28

I recently tried to seriously use Emacs over my usual Vim. Mainly because I've got so used to the GNU readline emacs shortcuts in the terminal and quite like the idea of not having to switch between command and insert mode, but damn after looking into some configuration options it really is a massively complicated piece of software, I mean not to start using it, it's probably easier than Vim but just looking at all t…

Emacs users are often so enthusiastic about all the things emacs can do that they overcomplicate the experience. Just open emacs with no customizations. You can do everything with a tiny handful of commands, many of which you already know: c-F for forward char, c-B for backwards char, c-P for previous line, c-N for next line. It's modeless so if you type you'll see your keystrokes. Run the tutorial to learn a few mor…

Yeah it's good advice, it's how I treat Vim really, I have a handful of keybindings to make it easier, but generally just stick to the defaults with everything and stay away from plugins.

Re: Emacs 26.3

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Post by roryrjb »

saagarjha wrote: post #110
roryrjb wrote: post #28

I recently tried to seriously use Emacs over my usual Vim. Mainly because I've got so used to the GNU readline emacs shortcuts in the terminal and quite like the idea of not having to switch between command and insert mode, but damn after looking into some configuration options it really is a massively complicated piece of software, I mean not to start using it, it's probably easier than Vim but just looking at all t…

Might I suggest GNU Nano? It has many of the same Readline shortcuts, but it's a lot simpler. It's what I've settled on. (Seriously.)

Yeah you might be right, it's tempting, simpler does sound better. I occasionally reach for nano when I'm on a system that doesn't have Vim out of the box (and I don't want to use vi, which is always there, but is just that slightly different to Vim in a few subtle ways to be annoying).

Re: Emacs 26.3

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Post by rurban »

I'm running with the emacs version from git for a while, and on the Linux machines even with the jit, but it's pretty unstable still. The jit causes lot of memory pressure, and on save it often runs a blocking major GC, which needs half a minute or such. Or even more. Very annoying. On Mac I'm running some latest version without jit, which is also very unstable.

Have to test if 26.3 without the jit is more stable.

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