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Startups from Y Combinator’s S19 Demo Day 2

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Re: Startups from Y Combinator’s S19 Demo Day 2

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:) well I posted on a FYI - For Your Information only angle. My thoughts: seed valuations for YC Demo Day are probably on a all time high, VC's giving gifts to be able to get in rounds looks like something out of Silicon Valley HBO, ok I remembered everything on SV HBO is based on real life events.

I think the most ridiculous thing is not even the gift, but the fact that it is a Tandem bike (just because of the name). What's the rationale there? "Ohh their name is Tandem. Let's buy them a Tandem bike to convince them to accept our term sheet. It's our fiduciary responsibility to do this stupid thing". For me, that's just a red flag. How little can you add to a company besides money, that you have to resort to t…

> I think the most ridiculous thing is not even the gift, but the fact that it is a Tandem bike (just because of the name).

Similar to Governors convincing Bezos to open HQ2 on their state by writing product reviews on amazon.com, giant cactus and what not.

Re: Startups from Y Combinator’s S19 Demo Day 2

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:) well I posted on a FYI - For Your Information only angle. My thoughts: seed valuations for YC Demo Day are probably on a all time high, VC's giving gifts to be able to get in rounds looks like something out of Silicon Valley HBO, ok I remembered everything on SV HBO is based on real life events.

> VC's giving gifts to be able to get in rounds looks like something out of Silicon Valley HBO It's actually super common. I've probably received 20+ random gifts. Everything from shoes to jackets to bitcoin miners and bottles of wine (I don't drink). If there's a $7.5m deal that will eventually be worth 10x that (say it returns $75m to the investor), a $200 tandem bike doesn't really move the needle.

> It's actually super common

I didn't know that, I knew that was normal practice on recruiting but I didn't imagined it on fundraising.

> that will eventually be worth 10x

The seed stage VC's are probably targeting more on the 100x - 1,000x range :)

Re: Startups from Y Combinator’s S19 Demo Day 2

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Why not? Personal relationships are a part of why deals are made. Showing some whimsy and personal attention isn't going to hurt, and costs what? ~500?

Not really your point, but if somebody gifted a $500 tandem/boat anchor for a $30MM co, that might indeed be a red flag. A $500 tandem is probably a boat anchor no matter what the circumstances are...

This is the norm in business. It forces reciprocity. It’s why most sales orgs spend so much on business entertainment.

Re: Startups from Y Combinator’s S19 Demo Day 2

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Fresh out of Y Combinator, Tandem lands millions from Andreessen Horowitz https://techcrunch.com/2019/08/20/tandem/ "is raising a $7.5 million seed financing at a valuation north of $30 million" "We’re told several top venture capital firms were vying for a stake in Tandem. One firm even gifted the founders a tandem bike, sources tell TechCrunch, resorting to amusing measures to sway the Tandem team. But it was a16z…

This sounds like what Kevin Kwok was describing[0] in his recent essay, The Arc of Collaboration. Even down to using the Discord metaphor. Kwok says that Slack ended up being more of an exception handler when normal processes break down. Contrast to Discord, which is more of a meta-layer around games and integrates within game platforms. I wonder if Tandem is what will make collaborative communication ubiquitous, i.e. sales talks to engineering talks to design all from within their various environments.

From TC: Tandem provides a virtual office for remote teams, complete with video-chatting and messaging capabilities, as well as integrations with top enterprise tools, including Notion, GitHub and Trello.

[0] https://kwokchain.com/2019/08/16/the-arc-of-collaboration/

Re: Startups from Y Combinator’s S19 Demo Day 2

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>talar: Huge potential here. Cars are on their way out, and scheduled grocery delivery can replace it. A ton of these already exist. Blue apron, Home Chef, Hello Fresh, Amazon (although I believe amazon is currently pickup only). Does talar do anything different than the already established companies? >spotless materials: Coatings can make a huge difference in the way we interact with materials... in fact, for the mo…

It seems like with Talar, their delivery people are literally coming into your home and stocking your pantry/fridge. So now somehow these random delivery people all have to have keys to my apartment (including the main entrance)? Why would I want some rando coming into my home and placing things? I have my food/ingredients spread across a few different cupboards in my apartment, how am I supposed to specify where I w…

Not just any rando, but a lowly-paid gig worker.

Re: Startups from Y Combinator’s S19 Demo Day 2

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post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really your point, but if somebody gifted a $500 tandem/boat anchor for a $30MM co, that might indeed be a red flag. A $500 tandem is probably a boat anchor no matter what the circumstances are...

This is the norm in business. It forces reciprocity. It’s why most sales orgs spend so much on business entertainment.

I (think) I know what you’re saying, what I’m saying is that if I said I was interested in your billion dollar automobile startup, and bought you a car as a gesture, you might be excited, until I handed you the keys to a used 1998 Hyundai Excel.

Unless I really am missing the point, because a $500 bicycle really is a pretty cheap machine these days, let alone a $500 tandem.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Excel

Re: Startups from Y Combinator’s S19 Demo Day 2

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post #119

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It seems like with Talar, their delivery people are literally coming into your home and stocking your pantry/fridge. So now somehow these random delivery people all have to have keys to my apartment (including the main entrance)? Why would I want some rando coming into my home and placing things? I have my food/ingredients spread across a few different cupboards in my apartment, how am I supposed to specify where I w…

Not just any rando, but a lowly-paid gig worker.

shudder

Re: Startups from Y Combinator’s S19 Demo Day 2

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Rejuvenation Technologies is based on this paper: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4415018/ I hope they can get this to work! The issue is their paper uses technology covered by other players in the space who have a decade head start and significant research budgets. Maybe they'll get bought out, but my guess is delivery and CMC are hurdles they'll run up against and then have a hard time getting follow-o…

Your link is to the patent application. If you check PAIR, you’ll see that only a small subset of the claims, amended, have received NOA. I would tend to disagree about the strength of their IP portfolio based on a cursory glance at the publicly available info, but I’d be curious to hear why you think differently.

Ouch, I didn't look at PAIR. They lost all their delivery claims. I was impressed by their priority date, which pre-dates some of the competition, but it looks like they lost most of the key claims they'll need to fight off a lawsuit.

Re: Startups from Y Combinator’s S19 Demo Day 2

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:) well I posted on a FYI - For Your Information only angle. My thoughts: seed valuations for YC Demo Day are probably on a all time high, VC's giving gifts to be able to get in rounds looks like something out of Silicon Valley HBO, ok I remembered everything on SV HBO is based on real life events.

I think the most ridiculous thing is not even the gift, but the fact that it is a Tandem bike (just because of the name). What's the rationale there? "Ohh their name is Tandem. Let's buy them a Tandem bike to convince them to accept our term sheet. It's our fiduciary responsibility to do this stupid thing". For me, that's just a red flag. How little can you add to a company besides money, that you have to resort to t…

Why is a sense of humour a red flag? Founders are people too you know.
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