DoorDash Buying Caviar from Square for $410M

Post by lancesells » Fri, Aug 02, 2019, 2:56 AM UTC

xenocyon wrote: post #101

MegaButts wrote: post #82

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You don't feel upset about how they were, in my opinion, defrauding you and the driver of the tip money? After I learned about what they were doing with tips I decided not to use them again, and considering how much competition there is I really haven't lost anything of value. This isn't meant to be a triggering comment. I'm genuinely curious to learn about other people's reactions to DoorDash's former tipping system…

Personally: having learned of their scummy practices, I will not be supporting DoorDash or Instacart ever again, regardless of whether they change policy now in response to being exposed. Why so unforgiving? Because you can't deter unethical behavior by merely asking for a perpetrator to discontinue the unethical behavior if/when exposed. The expected value of a penalty needs to exceed the financial reward of the beh…

Post by femto113 » Fri, Aug 02, 2019, 3:30 AM UTC

jmeyer2k wrote: post #122

xenocyon wrote: post #101

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Personally: having learned of their scummy practices, I will not be supporting DoorDash or Instacart ever again, regardless of whether they change policy now in response to being exposed. Why so unforgiving? Because you can't deter unethical behavior by merely asking for a perpetrator to discontinue the unethical behavior if/when exposed. The expected value of a penalty needs to exceed the financial reward of the beh…

I drove for DoorDash and I absolutely prefer the guaranteed amount with them keeping the tips. First of all, people tip beforehand so it's not based on quality of service anyway. Second of all, it makes DoorDash a steady stream of income instead of hoping that you'll be tipped enough. Most people don't tip and if the tip is large enough, you do receive the tip.

Post by pkulak » Fri, Aug 02, 2019, 4:19 AM UTC

wpietri wrote: post #110

notyourday wrote: post #71

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> 1) Ghost kitchens that only serve via delivery apps. You can save on rent by setting it up in an area with no foot-traffic. You can also get economies of scale. You can't. This is the kind of a mistake that all first time entrepreneurs make. Delivery costs too much money. Logistics of getting your labor force to your kitchen is a nightmare. > 2) Restaurants with dedicated entrances for delivery drivers. Baar Baar i…

I'm not sure why you're getting downvoted. A beloved restaurant near my house is closing down, and the owner is pretty clear about how ugly the economics of delivery are: https://missionlocal.org/2019/05/custards-last-stand-mission...

Post by dannyr » Fri, Aug 02, 2019, 4:22 AM UTC

spullara wrote: post #39

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HK was just an example. it's true for most/all chinese cities.

Most/all Chinese cities are denser with cheaper labor than any US city so the point stands.

Post by setr » Fri, Aug 02, 2019, 4:57 AM UTC

arcticfox wrote: post #128

notyourday wrote: post #71

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> 1) Ghost kitchens that only serve via delivery apps. You can save on rent by setting it up in an area with no foot-traffic. You can also get economies of scale. You can't. This is the kind of a mistake that all first time entrepreneurs make. Delivery costs too much money. Logistics of getting your labor force to your kitchen is a nightmare. > 2) Restaurants with dedicated entrances for delivery drivers. Baar Baar i…

Dismissing things in 2019 by referencing that they were tried in the dotcom bubble ... Two decades ago ... Is not a very powerful argument