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Looks like an external issue. "The Cloud Networking service (Standard Tier) has lost multiple independent fiber links within us-east1 zone. Vendor has been notified and are currently investigating the issue."
It's not independent fiber links if they use the same tube to get into the building...just ask any backhoe operator.
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Doubt Calendar is hosted on GCP. Generally Google does not run first-party systems on GCP, instead putting them on Borg (internal cloud).
Which, IMO, is actually a big problem. AFAIK Amazon are running a lot of actual production loads on AWS. Dogfooding can be extremely valuable, especially if a massive portion of your staff have the same profession as your target market. I've been using Google Cloud in a new role I started recently. There's definitely some parts of GCP I like, but whenever I use the Web Console I get the distinct impression nobody at…
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Is it practical to use several providers when egress is so expensive?
You can move 1.6TB between providers in a month for the same price as a single beefy DB server (m4.16xlarge here). That's a whole lot of logical replication..
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Well, sure, if you hate your devops team and you want to make sure they can’t use any of the proprietary functionality of either provider. At which point, if you want to be managing a fleet of vanilla Linux boxes yourself, why use a cloud provider at all?
* You should not be locking yourself into proprietary functionality of a cloud provider unless you are deeply interested in what happened to Oracle customers getting raked over the coals happening to you. * DevOps teams can be multi-cloud relatively easy when using infrastructure as code tooling (Terraform, Packer, etc) and traditional DevOps practices * Why manage a fleet of vanilla boxes when you can use vanilla bo…
Why so many problems at Google lately? Calendar down two weeks ago[0], and Google Cloud had a larger outage a month ago[1] [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20213092 [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20077421
Terrance here from Google Cloud Support. There are only 3 things I can say about this situation. 1) These issues are currently unrelated. 2) We learn a lot from these situations. 3) A lot of these types of issues can be mitigated by running in more then 1 region. I really cant promise that today's situations will never happen again. There are a lot of moving pieces in our system and sometimes there are things outside…
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Doubt Calendar is hosted on GCP. Generally Google does not run first-party systems on GCP, instead putting them on Borg (internal cloud).
Which, IMO, is actually a big problem. AFAIK Amazon are running a lot of actual production loads on AWS. Dogfooding can be extremely valuable, especially if a massive portion of your staff have the same profession as your target market. I've been using Google Cloud in a new role I started recently. There's definitely some parts of GCP I like, but whenever I use the Web Console I get the distinct impression nobody at…
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Well, sure, if you hate your devops team and you want to make sure they can’t use any of the proprietary functionality of either provider. At which point, if you want to be managing a fleet of vanilla Linux boxes yourself, why use a cloud provider at all?
* You should not be locking yourself into proprietary functionality of a cloud provider unless you are deeply interested in what happened to Oracle customers getting raked over the coals happening to you. * DevOps teams can be multi-cloud relatively easy when using infrastructure as code tooling (Terraform, Packer, etc) and traditional DevOps practices * Why manage a fleet of vanilla boxes when you can use vanilla bo…
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“You should be using more than 1 region” could also be “you should be using more than one provider”, no?
Well, sure, if you hate your devops team and you want to make sure they can’t use any of the proprietary functionality of either provider. At which point, if you want to be managing a fleet of vanilla Linux boxes yourself, why use a cloud provider at all?
Of course that only works as long as you're swapping out largely replaceable parts. If you built everything around some proprietary service then yeah, you've tied yourself to that anchor.
Google engineers ran into a coding problem that wasnt on leetcode
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Doubt Calendar is hosted on GCP. Generally Google does not run first-party systems on GCP, instead putting them on Borg (internal cloud).
Which, IMO, is actually a big problem. AFAIK Amazon are running a lot of actual production loads on AWS. Dogfooding can be extremely valuable, especially if a massive portion of your staff have the same profession as your target market. I've been using Google Cloud in a new role I started recently. There's definitely some parts of GCP I like, but whenever I use the Web Console I get the distinct impression nobody at…
For what it's worth, the internal-only systems also have warts ;)