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An Open Letter to Google and Apple: Stop Hindering Iranian Entrepreneurs

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There are lots of ways to provide free access to information to everyone. How do you expect other people to grow without giving them enough information to understand? Peace depends on the freedom

Russia has semi-free access to information and majority of Russians applaud the wars that their governments wage against their neighbors.

Just like Americans. Information freedom is no panacea but I think it helps. It’s just that it has a long lead time.

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The 80 million Iranians are currently held hostage by two entities. First, it is their own government (which is by far not the worse in the world, being in Iran feels more free than one would expect). The Iranian people are not the target -- Persia is a rich ancient civilization that's being repressed -- the West knows this and wants to see the Iranian people's massive creative potential unleashed. Sanctions are desi…

> The Iranian people are not the target -- Persia is a rich ancient civilization that's being repressed -- the West knows this and wants to see the Iranian people's massive creative potential unleashed. Given that "the West" is largely responsible for installing/supporting repressive Regimes in Iran, that sounds a bit too naive. "Wants to replace the oppressive Regime with an oppressive Regime that will do their bidd…

The US people fought several wars to free itself and establish its nation. And then it went back to Europe and fought WWI and WWII to ensure it's free. Iran is one the few places on Earth remaining to be free. But freedom is a choice, and the Iranian people have to choose it.

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The 80 million Iranians are currently held hostage by two entities. First, it is their own government (which is by far not the worse in the world, being in Iran feels more free than one would expect). The Iranian people are not the target -- Persia is a rich ancient civilization that's being repressed -- the West knows this and wants to see the Iranian people's massive creative potential unleashed. Sanctions are desi…

> Sanctions are designed as [..] when the people amplify the pressure beyond the point the government can withstand Do you have any historic evidence that it ever worked like this? I don't, and therefore, I think the sanctions are a predatory policy designed to break the country so it could be attacked by the U.S., where the military-industrial complex is getting too horny. I mean, I could understand sanctions in the…

Thanks for quoting Vaclav Havel. That was exactly what I was looking for. My father was a revolutionist. The amount of harm and distress it caused to him and his children is beyond imagination. It damaged us beyond repair. That's something that I'll avoid at all costs.

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And scientists.

I recently got contacted about an old genetics project that stopped working because Java applets. I told them I can reimplement it in JS, just pay for my time. They said they would love to, but they are an Iranian institute, and I'm a US citizen. So it's a lose-lose situation.

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Please to all the posters, stick your head out of your butt for a sec, this Iran thing is not something related to just some poor dev unable to publish on their store, it is a world wide dumb reaction all started from the USA foreign agenda. I'll give you an example to highlight how f'd up is the situation, in Italy, country with a quite respectful relation with Iran, banks started kicking out clients (with a one mon…

The author left one of the protagonists out of the picture completely. The Iranian regime. If the US and US-based companies have a fault in this, so too does the recalcitrant regime which should be called out for its part in this.

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The 80 million Iranians are currently held hostage by two entities. First, it is their own government (which is by far not the worse in the world, being in Iran feels more free than one would expect). The Iranian people are not the target -- Persia is a rich ancient civilization that's being repressed -- the West knows this and wants to see the Iranian people's massive creative potential unleashed. Sanctions are desi…

> Sanctions are designed as [..] when the people amplify the pressure beyond the point the government can withstand Do you have any historic evidence that it ever worked like this? I don't, and therefore, I think the sanctions are a predatory policy designed to break the country so it could be attacked by the U.S., where the military-industrial complex is getting too horny. I mean, I could understand sanctions in the…

> > Sanctions are designed as [..] when the people amplify the pressure beyond the point the government can withstand

> Do you have any historic evidence that it ever worked like this?

It worked on South Africa. My hope is similar sanctions could be put on Israel to force it to end the occupation of Palestine. But in these cases the sanctions are for specific wrongdoings that the State can address. The US sanctions against Venezuela, Iran and previously on Cuba are much broader in scope. The US is essentially saying "we will sanction you until you roll over and die" which is of course completely counter-productive. The mullahs in Iran aren't going to surrender just because the US tells them to.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The Iranian people are not the target -- Persia is a rich ancient civilization that's being repressed -- the West knows this and wants to see the Iranian people's massive creative potential unleashed. Given that "the West" is largely responsible for installing/supporting repressive Regimes in Iran, that sounds a bit too naive. "Wants to replace the oppressive Regime with an oppressive Regime that will do their bidd…

The US people fought several wars to free itself and establish its nation. And then it went back to Europe and fought WWI and WWII to ensure it's free. Iran is one the few places on Earth remaining to be free. But freedom is a choice, and the Iranian people have to choose it.

This is ironic, right?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you're getting caught up in semantics here. If you want to tie this back to the 'actual racism' you're inferring, the prejudice of the US polity towards the Iran people is what enables this policy to be enacted without any serious counter of moral concern from the populous. This actual racism is what permits the foreign policy, that ruins the lives of innocent people in far off countries. Further to that, if…

You're missing the point. The situation is much more nuanced than that. The Iranian people are not the target, the West wants to see their potential released. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20303107

I see, so, this game with Iran, is motivated because "the West wants to see their potential released".

When is the turn of the Saudis? Is Iraq potential totally released already?

And the grandparent is the one missing the point..

I want to recommend this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw

Or the transcription: https://genius.com/General-wesley-clark-seven-countries-in-f...

Your definition of the West is pretty narrow, by the way, because everybody was OK with the deal until the USA decided unilaterally to break it.

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