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Re: Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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Post by yellowapple » Fri, Jun 21, 2019, 10:49 PM UTC

My main issue with Lenovo's mobile workstations (and why I've yet to buy one) is that they all use Nvidia for their secondary GPUs. Meanwhile, Dell's Precision line offers the option of AMD GPUs (e.g. my Precision 7510, which I got specifically because it shipped with a FirePro card).

That said, I've been pretty happy with my T470 at work (running Slackware), so an integrated-GPU-only ThinkPad that ships with Ubuntu sounds interesting (or even an Nvidia-GPU ThinkPad if they've managed to make Intel/Nvidia hybrid setups less painful). I'd probably be willing to pick up one of the all-AMD ThinkPads (I've got my eye on the T495, E595, and X395; all of them seem to have the same CPU and integrated GPU offerings, though the E595 offers way more RAM so that gives it a bit of an advantage); none of those offer preinstalled Ubuntu, though.

Re: Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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Post by whalabi » Fri, Jun 21, 2019, 11:46 PM UTC

acoard wrote: post #111

whalabi wrote: post #110

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I dual boot Windows and Fedora on a laptop with a NVIDIA dGPU and an Intel iGPU, don't use the NVIDIA one in Linux but when I boot to Windows I can game. As far as I know, Ubuntu has even better NVIDIA support than Fedora so you should be good You may need to install proprietary drivers though Also I get really, really good battery life in Linux, I think it's accomplished with sudo powertop --auto or similar

What laptop is this? A Lenovo?

A gigabyte actually (which definitely has its downsides - I just wanted the new generation of CPU early)

Re: Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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Post by TkTech » Sat, Jun 22, 2019, 12:24 AM UTC

yellowapple wrote: post #120

TkTech wrote: post #8

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China has used its own FreeBSD (kylin) and then ubuntu-based (neokylin) since 2001. Nearly half of all laptops are sold with it. Likewise, North Korea has Red Star since 2008 which is mandatory or risk forced labor. While kylin isn't too far off from a traditional distro, officers will force you to install rootkits on both desktop/laptops and phones (JingWang). If you're caught later with it missing you will most lik…

> Likewise, North Korea has Red Star since 2008 which is mandatory or risk forced labor. I wonder how true that really is, given the proliferation of ancient (i.e. pre-XP) versions of Windows in heavy use over there.

The government still uses a majority mix of Windows and some OSX for the upper classes. For anyone else it's very much mandatory, and you need to be on a national registry just to legally own a computer, which is also how they ensure you update.

Re: Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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Post by fgonzag » Sat, Jun 22, 2019, 12:37 AM UTC

baybal2 wrote: post #52

dimitar wrote: post #22

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Well they have nukes, so a Linux distro shouldn't be too hard.

I would've reversed that statement.

You think a distro is a harder engineering project than a nuke?

Re: Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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Post by baybal2 » Sat, Jun 22, 2019, 2:24 AM UTC

fgonzag wrote: post #124

baybal2 wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would've reversed that statement.

You think a distro is a harder engineering project than a nuke?

yes

Re: Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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Post by smittywerben » Sat, Jun 22, 2019, 2:53 AM UTC

paulcarroty wrote: post #12

Lenovo caught for unremovable crapware in BIOS, so I don't recommend to buy their products anymore. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/08/12/lenovo_firmware_nas...

If you're concerned with privacy, Ubuntu tracks you way more. Don't make this a false dichotomy.

Re: Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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Post by 0lpbm » Sat, Jun 22, 2019, 10:49 AM UTC

viraptor wrote: post #62

LeonM wrote: post #35

I own an 4K X1-extreme, which is basically the P1 without the Quadro card and Xeon/ECC option. I run Ubuntu 19.04 on it and have so many problems. - Grub has ridiculous performance issues on 4K screens, it renders at less than 1 fps, making it a real pain to do anything in it. - You can't update the bios through Linux, the update tool is windows only. - The Lenovo TB3 dock never works properly. - The dual GPU situati…

> You can't update the bios through Linux, the update tool is windows only. Are you sure? https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/au/en/products/laptops-and-netb... This lists both a bootable image and a Linux utility. I've got standard X1 carbon and have been using the bootable bios updates successfully.

Also on an older X1 Carbon (5th gen) and fwupdmgr supports it out of the box.

> No upgrades for 20HRCTO1WW System Firmware, current is 0.1.39: 0.1.39=same, 0.1.37=older, 0.1.36=older, 0.1.35=older, 0.1.34=older

Re: Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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Post by beatgammit » Sat, Jun 22, 2019, 4:32 PM UTC

LeonM wrote: post #35

I own an 4K X1-extreme, which is basically the P1 without the Quadro card and Xeon/ECC option. I run Ubuntu 19.04 on it and have so many problems. - Grub has ridiculous performance issues on 4K screens, it renders at less than 1 fps, making it a real pain to do anything in it. - You can't update the bios through Linux, the update tool is windows only. - The Lenovo TB3 dock never works properly. - The dual GPU situati…

I'm stoked about the upcoming AMD-based T series, which hopefully resolves the thermal throttling in the A series and has more ports and battery options than the E series. This would eliminate most of your issues since AMD GPU drivers are first class citizens on Linux.