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Re: Pock: Display macOS Dock in Touch Bar

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Post by _eLRIC » Thu, Jun 20, 2019, 8:57 AM UTC

guiambros wrote: post #58

hunter2_ wrote: post #21

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My favorite BTT mapping: 3 finger click (touchpad and/or magic mouse) generates a middle click event. I have no idea how people open and close browser tabs without this, since browsers have great middle click response but Apple pointing devices don't natively generate such clicks.

I also love BTT, but opening/closing tabs is much faster using ⌘-T and ⌘-W.

Also using cmd+L to enter the address bar and then ALT + Return to open the selected address in a new tab

Re: Pock: Display macOS Dock in Touch Bar

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Post by pjmlp » Thu, Jun 20, 2019, 9:09 AM UTC

pintxo wrote: post #64

city41 wrote: post #56

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Unfortunately ThinkPad trackpads aren’t nearly as good as MacBook trackpads.

REAL Thinkpad users will only ever use the little red stick and disable the trackpad (just joking). But it‘s worth a try, takes a couple days to get used to first.

Real Thinkpad user here, yep using that little red stick since 2006, when I got my first one.

Really feels a bit weird on other laptops, although on those that have two finger gestures it is bearable, or I just end up plugging an external mouse.

Re: Pock: Display macOS Dock in Touch Bar

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Post by bitL » Thu, Jun 20, 2019, 9:14 AM UTC

If you want to have Esc/Fn keys back on models with touch bar, buy one of those keyboard covers for non-touchbar 13" model, glue some little/low pieces of gum under Esc/Fn keys on the cover and then just place over the keyboard/touch bar. You'll have some tactile feedback and a lower chance of accidentally executing some function you didn't need. You can also glue gorilla glass strip on top of touch bar to reduce sensitivity/number of unwanted touches.

Frankly, I am not sure why there is no "glueable" 3rd party Esc/Fn rubber membrane over touch bar with USB-C output produced by anyone to address this major design flaw for high-performance Apple devices...

Re: Pock: Display macOS Dock in Touch Bar

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Post by 8draco8 » Thu, Jun 20, 2019, 9:14 AM UTC

bodegajed wrote: post #89

stdclass wrote: post #85

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I use karabiner [1] to remap the capslock key to esc. [1] https://pqrs.org/osx/karabiner/

Interesting.. so this is how the esc key is now? I guess it's compromise. Maybe I'll get used to it eventually. Sigh I'm just sad apple wont budge on a high end non-touchbar model

Touchbar can be useful especially with apps like Pock to save some screen real estate. The only thing that they should do is to bring back ESC key and maybe allow for switching numbers row to F-keys with Fn. That would allow for rich media control and whatever you want on touchbar and still have proper, tactile functionality of keys.

Re: Pock: Display macOS Dock in Touch Bar

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Post by raja » Thu, Jun 20, 2019, 9:17 AM UTC

atomwaffel wrote: post #92

stdclass wrote: post #85

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I use karabiner [1] to remap the capslock key to esc. [1] https://pqrs.org/osx/karabiner/

No need for Karabiner if that’s all you’re using it for, you can do it natively in System Preferences → Keyboard → Modifier Keys.

Karabiner Elements is user for a more complex modifier [1]. I use Karabiner to remap Caps Lock to hyper (cmd+ctrl+option) or just esc when pressed alone.

[1] https://pqrs.org/osx/karabiner/complex_modifications/#modifi...

Re: Pock: Display macOS Dock in Touch Bar

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Post by raja » Thu, Jun 20, 2019, 9:22 AM UTC

savolai wrote: post #79

I have a Windows/gnome history. So I still miss switching between windows, not apps, easily. Could this deliver that too? Pretty please.

Not sure if this is what you are after but you can use `cmd` + `~` to switch between windows of the same app.

Re: Pock: Display macOS Dock in Touch Bar

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Post by lloeki » Thu, Jun 20, 2019, 9:30 AM UTC

chrisseaton wrote: post #66

dustinfarris wrote: post #2

This is what Touch Bar should have been from the beginning IMO. I've been on the fence to upgrade my 2012 MBP. I've been concerned about buying into the Touch Bar hardware when it seems like it is not coming to any other Macs. Why should I devote time to learning Touch Bar and trying to find ways to integrate it with my workflow when keyboard shortcuts are more than enough—and probably better? What happens when I sit…

> devote time to learning Touch Bar How complicated do you think it is that you need to spend time learning it?

Not complicated at all, it just requires an open mindset.

Some tips:

Customise it to your liking in the keyboard pref pane.

You can press-and-drag on volume and brightness buttons of the collapsed control strip. No need to tap then slide.

You can create services (now Quick Action) in Automator and they show up with the Show Quick Actions setting set. Since services can be contextual (input+app) you can get creative and do some whacky stuff in there. I have contextless Safari and Terminal there to pop up new windows whatever the focused app is.

Re: Pock: Display macOS Dock in Touch Bar

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Post by vtkacenko » Thu, Jun 20, 2019, 9:35 AM UTC

pram wrote: post #5

Coincidentally I also just upgraded my personal laptop from a 2012 retina MacBook Pro to the 2019 i9 MacBook Pro! Long story short I think the touchbar is totally useless. I have it set to emulate regular function keys right now (expose, launchpad etc) However everything else is top notch and well worth it. The touchid is fantastic, and you will immediately enjoy the difference. Screen is amazing, 8 cores is super ni…

Fresh - yes. But the keyboard degrades over time :(

Re: Pock: Display macOS Dock in Touch Bar

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Post by mastazi » Thu, Jun 20, 2019, 9:39 AM UTC

stephenr wrote: post #95

eknkc wrote: post #93

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I'm kind of neutral about it but haven't met anyone who said it was good. Seems like people either hate it or don't care about it. There are a lot of people who like the butterfly keyboard (apart from reliability) but I thought the sentiment on the touch bar was universal.

My experience is that when I use the F-keys I'm almost always using the 'default' action on macOS (i.e. not sending a native F12 for example, I'm adjusting volume), and for those tasks the Touch Bar is a little more useful, because it can do more things intuitively, but, I don't do those things a lot. So I don't think it's "not good" it's just so far down on the list of how I use a computer that it isn't worth raving…

I can imagine a lot of workflows like yours, where the function keys are not very important. However I can’t imagine using a keyboard without Escape key. In my opinion, the touch bar should have been a little bit smaller, and the physical esc key should have stayed. The product linked at the top of this discussion lists the Escape key as one of the main features, I think that’s telling!

Re: Pock: Display macOS Dock in Touch Bar

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Post by jxdxbx » Thu, Jun 20, 2019, 9:42 AM UTC

dustinfarris wrote: post #2

This is what Touch Bar should have been from the beginning IMO. I've been on the fence to upgrade my 2012 MBP. I've been concerned about buying into the Touch Bar hardware when it seems like it is not coming to any other Macs. Why should I devote time to learning Touch Bar and trying to find ways to integrate it with my workflow when keyboard shortcuts are more than enough—and probably better? What happens when I sit…

The lack of a Touch Bar on desktop Macs is ridiculous, but I generally like it. Especially when I realized that you don't for example, touch volume, wait, and slide, but just start sliding from the little button in the quick menu.