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Re: uBlock Origin 1.20

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Post by panta »

aluren wrote: post #54

I am dumbfounded that uBlock Origin, arguably the single most important extension in modern web browsing, and one that makes millions of lives easier by making their web experience bearable at all, all of this depends on one single person, working for free. Now there's also the list maintainers, who also work for free. Still makes you wonder about how the world works. There's probably many other similar instances. In…

Yes, this.

uBlock Origin seems to have ~15 million active users between Chrome and Firefox (source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UBlock_Origin#uBlock_Origin). If it only spared us 10 seconds a day on average (probably a super conservative estimate), it would save the equivalent of an average human life (~70yrs) every 15 days! (And given that probably at least 70% of users don't use an ad blocker, it's infuriating to think what's the "human" cost of ads on the web alone...)

Re: uBlock Origin 1.20

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Post by _mghw »

victor9000 wrote: post #24
vasili111 wrote: post #2

After Chrome API changes announcement uBlock Origin news at HN became more popular than before. I like it.

It's become a pattern across many Google assets. The massive price increase of the Maps API, the order of magnitude limitations placed on the YouTube API, and now the neutering of ad blocking on Chromium. Google built an empire, and now they're cashing in their chips. I can't say I blame them, but they are no longer a platform that enables innovation. So now my only question is what's next? Which Google product will…

The funniest thing is, I would happily pay Google a reasonable amount each month to have access to their service! Caveat being that they agreed to drop all tracking and adverts, of course. But I love Gmail, Drive, Youtube and, most of all, Maps and Earth!

As things stand, though, if I gave Google any money, I'd be essentially wasting my time, because all I'd get in return would be dubious 'premium' features.

Re: uBlock Origin 1.20

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Post by sam_goody »

aluren wrote: post #54

I am dumbfounded that uBlock Origin, arguably the single most important extension in modern web browsing, and one that makes millions of lives easier by making their web experience bearable at all, all of this depends on one single person, working for free. Now there's also the list maintainers, who also work for free. Still makes you wonder about how the world works. There's probably many other similar instances. In…

If I recall correctly, he trusted one of his maintainers too much, and that is the reason he no longer contributes to uBlock (his original project), but rather created uBlock origin.

The fact that there is no easy way to make this into a money project probably led to his relying so much on such a maintainer.

Part of the issue seems to be that the devs that actually value an OSS project don't have any way to persuade the company they work for to contribute to the project. If there was some way to be able to create a tier where a company would pay $12/month and be able to "something which benefits the company ?? bugfixes ??" - something support related or somehow, many of these projects (timezone, adblocker, ssh, even things like Matrix) could be funded.

Re: uBlock Origin 1.20

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Post by Crinus »

nickjj wrote: post #115
ehsankia wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are definitely a few OSS that don't get anymore as much love as they deserve. VLC and OBS are two example of programs that are so damn good, even paid alternatives hardly can compete.

OBS is interesting because not only is it one of the best programs available for what it does (and cross platform to boot, which is huge), but it's also a catalyst for making people an absurd amount of money. Pretty much every top streamer uses it. I wouldn't be surprised if OBS was responsible for generating over $75 million worth of earnings for just the top streamers on Twitch in the last few years, then there's T…

FYI OBS' main developer has a Patreon with $1.4k/month https://www.patreon.com/obsproject and an annual budget (for the entire project) of $90k through OpenCollective https://opencollective.com/obsproject

Re: uBlock Origin 1.20

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Post by _mghw »

Arbalest wrote: post #110

As much as Advertisers want to be able to use their own domains to be able thwart fake clicks, this approach leaves them open to ad blocking. At what point with the wish to deliver ads outweigh the want to measure user engagement? Once ads are slipstreamed, adblockers are going to have to get a lot more aggressive, more like antivirus scanning for code signatures. Thanks to the team (and especially Ray) for keeping u…

That wouldn't be the worst future though. In my head, once the adverts are being hosted on the website domain, there'd be a lot more incentive to a) NOT deliver malware, and b) NOT have those wearisome video/sound/flashing/js-heavy adverts.

Re: uBlock Origin 1.20

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Post by xorcist »

scardine wrote: post #68
bdcravens wrote: post #22

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> Looks like I’m going to rewind 13 years Well if you had asked your typical HN developer a few years ago whether they'd be using a Microsoft code editor ...

Lets not forget WSL. I just got the WSL2 upgrade - it turns a Windows 10 desktop into a quite decent software developer workstation. Seriously guys, if the last time you used Windows was a few years ago it is time to give it a another shot.

Sure, all you have to do is install some extra software and then it's almost passable as a decent Linux.

It's not a great selling point. Not everyone thinks it's productive to switch operating systems once in a while.

Re: uBlock Origin 1.20

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Post by xorcist »

_v7gu wrote: post #104
worble wrote: post #99

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If the WSL is the only reason windows is a decent development workstation, then why not just use Linux in the first place? What unique factor is Windows offering here?

Being able to run two OS'es at the same time seamlessly is pretty cool. Many programs I use are either Windows or Linux exclusive so it saves me a lot of time rebooting compared to double-booting.

It was a long time ago I had reason to start Windows specific software, but even back then wine did a really good job. It even had functionality for things like running IE versions in parallel, good for the frontenders in the team. And development hasn't slowed down since then.

Re: uBlock Origin 1.20

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Post by elcomet »

axylw wrote: post #118
ehsankia wrote: post #66

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There are definitely a few OSS that don't get anymore as much love as they deserve. VLC and OBS are two example of programs that are so damn good, even paid alternatives hardly can compete.

MPC-HC and mpv are much better than VLC.

I'm not sure they are comparable. One force of VLC is that it litteraly runs everywhere.

MPC-HC only works on windows, so it's not comparable. mpv has also a lot of target platforms, but not as much as VLC. It's really nice though, and I think a bit of competition is good.

Re: uBlock Origin 1.20

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Post by drited »

mindfulhack wrote: post #81
benoliver999 wrote: post #76

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VLC is what got me interested in the free software biz to begin with. I wondered how it was even possible, found out they made whole OS-es in a similar manner, been a linux user for over 15 years now.

Maybe the lack of human resources is offset by the lack of managerial bottleneck (you can just get stuff done and solve problems immediately with your keyboard without the need for weekly meetings or approval from some non-caring boss)? I've always been astounded too.

The end of the book 'The PayPal Wars' gives fascinating context on how development just completely dies in a corporate environment. They went from being able to roll major new features in a weekend to requiring months just to schedule a meeting to discuss a font change. It's a fascinating read when we now look back at how PayPal just stagnated under Ebay's ownership.

Re: uBlock Origin 1.20

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Post by dmix »

drited wrote: post #129
mindfulhack wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe the lack of human resources is offset by the lack of managerial bottleneck (you can just get stuff done and solve problems immediately with your keyboard without the need for weekly meetings or approval from some non-caring boss)? I've always been astounded too.

The end of the book 'The PayPal Wars' gives fascinating context on how development just completely dies in a corporate environment. They went from being able to roll major new features in a weekend to requiring months just to schedule a meeting to discuss a font change. It's a fascinating read when we now look back at how PayPal just stagnated under Ebay's ownership.

I’ve also long wondered what Twitter’s thousands of software developers do all day. Their product certainly hasn’t gotten any better.
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