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Post by saagarjha »

skybrian wrote: post #96
jrochkind1 wrote: post #76

Hm, I wonder if I'll still be able to sync music and podcasts to my iPod. My 10-plus-year-old iPod is rock solid technology, hardware and software, just keeps on working. At this point it feels like some retro SF alternate vision of the future we could have had, with simple easy to use things that never broke.

Apple just released a new iPod Touch, so it seems it will survive in some form: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/05/remember-the-ipod-ap...

iPod Touch runs iOS, though, so it might not have the same appeal.

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Post by 1over137 »

vondur wrote: post #58

If this is true, and it follows Apple normal software re-write playbook, then the new replacement will have hardly any functionality compared the current iTunes version.

Yes, if it's anything like, for example, iPhotos -> Photos.app, then they'll remove all kinds of useful things and make the UI worse.

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Post by dang »

This article falls loosely into the "announcement of an announcement" category, which is off topic for HN. There's no harm in waiting for the announcement itself.

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Post by will_pseudonym »

ProfessorLayton wrote: post #113

Good riddance. iTunes went from one of my favorite music players, to an app I loathe to use every day at work just to listen to my Apple Music subscription. Admittedly I don't find iOS' Music app that much better, so I'm pretty wary of iTunes' upcoming replacement.

I'm genuinely curious: why not use an alternative to Apple Music?

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Post by klodolph »

asveikau wrote: post #59
scarface74 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No you don’t. With iTunes you could have smart playlists like “create a list of all of the songs I haven’t played in X days”. Normal people didn’t want to tag songs and use the filesystem. Do I really need to bring up the “No Wireless. Less Space than a Nomad. Lame.” Meme and how geeks didn’t get the iPod? https://slashdot.org/story/01/10/23/1816257/apple-releases-i...

I think you may be envisioning two extremes when the parent comment wants a happy medium. I.e. files on disk in any way the customer wants, but add a db on the side to do things like play counts and tags. With reasonable defaults for most people who don't care about filesystem layout.

> files on disk in any way the customer wants, but add a db on the side to do things like play counts and tags

Literally iTunes does this, by default, without changing its configuration.

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Post by mrep »

azernik wrote: post #66
mrep wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So what do you call all the people who develop for apples platforms because they make an extremely high portion of the value for an OS. Without Mac/iOS developers, apple would have gone bankrupt long ago as no OS can compete withouts external developers?

And all of those iOS developers have somehow gotten along just fine without doing their development on an iOS device.

This thread is about using an iPad as a laptop replacement which no developer can do if they want to develop for Mac/IOS so what is your point?

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Post by JakeTheAndroid »

biql wrote: post #57

> The company is launching a trio of new apps for the Mac – Music, TV, and Podcasts – to replace iTunes. Nice. It's always better to have multiple programs each dedicated to a specific task than one that tries to be everything.

This confuses me. Isn't this essentially how it already works? Like QuickTime is how you play video files and you can organize videos in QT just like you can do so with music in iTunes. I know both apps are kind of tied together, but it seems like outside of Podcasts they already have two apps doing two different things.

Does this also mean they are killing QuickTime?

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Post by bedhead »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #76

Hm, I wonder if I'll still be able to sync music and podcasts to my iPod. My 10-plus-year-old iPod is rock solid technology, hardware and software, just keeps on working. At this point it feels like some retro SF alternate vision of the future we could have had, with simple easy to use things that never broke.

I still have my first-gen iPod and it works great. Battery life isn't too terrible all things considered, I get about 2-3 hours from a charge which I've been told is great compared to others. The looks I get from people are priceless. Teens stop me on the train to ask what it is and their jaws hit the floor. It feels like it's made of solid uranium it weighs so much. I can't even add new music anymore, luckily I have a lot of good stuff loaded.

It's a shame what's become of iTunes though...just an awful app.

Re: Apple Plans End of iTunes

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Post by dwaite »

asveikau wrote: post #59
scarface74 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No you don’t. With iTunes you could have smart playlists like “create a list of all of the songs I haven’t played in X days”. Normal people didn’t want to tag songs and use the filesystem. Do I really need to bring up the “No Wireless. Less Space than a Nomad. Lame.” Meme and how geeks didn’t get the iPod? https://slashdot.org/story/01/10/23/1816257/apple-releases-i...

I think you may be envisioning two extremes when the parent comment wants a happy medium. I.e. files on disk in any way the customer wants, but add a db on the side to do things like play counts and tags. With reasonable defaults for most people who don't care about filesystem layout.

That is how I always use iTunes, since the music was stored on my NAS. There is/was no requirement for iTunes to manage the storage and filesystem organization of your music - that was just the default.

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Post by mrep »

eridius wrote: post #70
mrep wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So what do you call all the people who develop for apples platforms because they make an extremely high portion of the value for an OS. Without Mac/iOS developers, apple would have gone bankrupt long ago as no OS can compete withouts external developers?

I call them "developers".

And how do you think they will develop IOS/Mac apps with an Ipad which is what this thread is talking about?
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