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Yes but they lifted out the most people from poverty in the last 20 years. The largest middle class of any society is the Chinese one.
The largest country of any other is also China. It’s not weird for them to have other most titles.
China is blocking all language editions of Wikipedia
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Re: China is blocking all language editions of Wikipedia
#122Re: China is blocking all language editions of Wikipedia
#123I still remember that last year during my internship in Mainland China, clone git repository from GitHub and GitLab is a pain and my professor even have to use VPN too. China is basically hell for developers. I am afraid the new generations in China will no longer know about the real Internet. *sigh
Interesting comment. You make it sound like the real internet happens to be US-centric. Yes, many important projects are hosted on Gitlab and Github, but there are also other ways to share code. And these alternatives might not be that well known to us developers in the western world.
On the other hand, the GFW excluding much content from outside China makes the China Internet experience particularly Chinese and not the "real Internet".
Re: China is blocking all language editions of Wikipedia
#124Sigh and this is why plain text SNI is was not a good idea...
How SNI is helping there? You still will have the entire website blocked. Clear HTTP would help, as they could block few selected pages and rest would be available. I don't understand this entire movement to HTTPS. Some people think that governments won't dare to block Wikipedia, Amazon or Google? Well, they dared and now you have millions of useful articles blocked because of few offending ones. If I would live in a…
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Central control is efficient? Despite every government that tried to control the economy utterly failed? You will need to provide some solid source to claim this kind of things. The problem lies with the concept, not with how fast the loop happens.
Are corporations generally run as central control, or does it vary wildly? Genuine question as my knowledge of org charts is roughly as simplistic as this cartoon: https://www.businessinsider.com/big-tech-org-charts-2011-6?o...
Corporations want to be centrally controlled, but the control is so poorly organized in most cases it's chaotic at best. And then there are multiple forms of organizations, not every of them works top-down, there are organizations that leave a lot of opportunities for working level employees to propose new ideas and initiatives.
Re: China is blocking all language editions of Wikipedia
#126I still remember that last year during my internship in Mainland China, clone git repository from GitHub and GitLab is a pain and my professor even have to use VPN too. China is basically hell for developers. I am afraid the new generations in China will no longer know about the real Internet. *sigh
Interesting comment. You make it sound like the real internet happens to be US-centric. Yes, many important projects are hosted on Gitlab and Github, but there are also other ways to share code. And these alternatives might not be that well known to us developers in the western world.
Re: China is blocking all language editions of Wikipedia
#127Does China have something like the Cuban sneakernet, or is there a clear reason why that wouldn't work there?
There are Chinese-based alternatives to Wikipedia that are much more popular: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_in_China#Online_encyc....
Re: China is blocking all language editions of Wikipedia
#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are corporations generally run as central control, or does it vary wildly? Genuine question as my knowledge of org charts is roughly as simplistic as this cartoon: https://www.businessinsider.com/big-tech-org-charts-2011-6?o...
> Are corporations generally run as central control, or does it vary wildly? Corporations want to be centrally controlled, but the control is so poorly organized in most cases it's chaotic at best. And then there are multiple forms of organizations, not every of them works top-down, there are organizations that leave a lot of opportunities for working level employees to propose new ideas and initiatives.
Note that's still central control, just with fatter signalling pipe which can send ideas upstairs, and not just results. Directions and evaluations still come from the top.
Re: China is blocking all language editions of Wikipedia
#129And at the same time Wikipedia blocks edits from public VPNs.
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I am in China:-). That link is blocked.
Use this vpn: https://tunnelhero.com
My standard process is to spin up a Streisand instance before I go there and give me multiple options (Shadowsocks and Wireguard are my main two).