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Re: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8 released

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> That's a shame and once again it will fall behind quickly RH use kernel with TONS of patches, so, version isn't critical here.

Their frankenkernel is very hit and miss, backports or not. Docker had to disable a few features, because at first they seemed to work, but then they were buggy on RHEL.

Can't remember any real problems with docker on RHEL/Fedora.

Re: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8 released

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So I hope I can answer some of these [disclaimer: I work for Red Hat]: Python: This is about the module system. Modules let you install different versions of parts of the stack. For example, different Python, different Apache version, different QEMU. These will move much faster than base RHEL because they're now decoupled. You can install one version of each module from a choice of several versions available at any o…

I have experienced only joy switching from ntpd (and worse, openntpd) to chrony. Why aren't you happy with the ntpd->chrony move?

I guess it's just what I'm used to. I'm also running my own NTP stratum 1 server from a GPS source using ntpd, but that's on Raspbian (https://rwmj.wordpress.com/2015/07/04/stratum-1-ntp-server-p...)

Re: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8 released

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So I hope I can answer some of these [disclaimer: I work for Red Hat]: Python: This is about the module system. Modules let you install different versions of parts of the stack. For example, different Python, different Apache version, different QEMU. These will move much faster than base RHEL because they're now decoupled. You can install one version of each module from a choice of several versions available at any o…

what about ansible? how does it fit into the "only system installed python"?

Ansible the client, or the target? Ansible doesn't need anything installed on the target (except sshd). For the client which presumably would be installed explicitly on far fewer machines it would bring in whatever Python it needs. I don't know if it uses System Python or a module however since I don't have it installed on RHEL 8 right now.

Re: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8 released

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With Shadowman gone and Redhat now a branch of IBM, this RHEL release is really dampened for me.

Can you expand on that?

I learned that the logo now is all hat: https://www.zdnet.com/article/goodbye-shadowman-red-hat-chan...

Re: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8 released

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With the whole IBM thing going on, I bet CentOS 8 is going to take longer than usual to be released.

I don't think so - I know the CentOS folk and they are working very hard on a release. There is no interference from IBM, partly because Red Hat hasn't been acquired yet, and partly because why would they kill a cash machine that's proven to work so well? Despite some nonsense you read online IBM are not stupid.

> why would they kill a cash machine that's proven to work so well?

You haven't been around a merger & acquisition process, I take it. It's usually like the scorpion and frog parable:

A scorpion asks a frog to carry it across a river. The frog hesitates, afraid of being stung by the scorpion, but the scorpion argues that if it did that, they would both drown. The frog considers this argument sensible and agrees to transport the scorpion. The scorpion climbs onto the frog's back and the frog begins to swim, but midway across the river, the scorpion stings the frog, dooming them both. The dying frog asks the scorpion why it stung the frog, to which the scorpion replies "I couldn't help it. It's in my nature."

(from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scorpion_and_the_Frog )

Re: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8 released

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> Pretty colors when running dmesg! My most disliked feature. The colors in everything always clashes with both my background color (the best one for my eyes) and my vision in general. The first thing I do on any new system is to figure out how to turn of the colors. Otherwise I can't see any of the output.

Wouldn't it use the colors your terminal is configured to use?

My terminal isn't configured to use any colors. It's just xterm. The only colors configured are background and foreground, and those colors various tools insist on as default are always clashing with them (and with my vision too). There are no color environment variables enabled, or anything else indicating that colors should be used, but even so colors are coming out of various command line tools lately.

Re: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8 released

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In EPEL probably https://twitter.com/RemiCollet/status/1063323527770750976

The enterprises I've worked where we've used RHEL... epel is not allowed near a system, only officially sanctioned repos and updates.

Isn't EPEL the "officially sanctioned" third party repo?

Re: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8 released

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post #89

With Shadowman gone and Redhat now a branch of IBM, this RHEL release is really dampened for me.

Never a better time to try OpenSuse and pitch SLES at work.

OpenSUSE Leap looks interesting. They have a KDE option too, unlike RHEL 8.

Re: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8 released

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With the whole IBM thing going on, I bet CentOS 8 is going to take longer than usual to be released.

And what is CentOS 8 ETA? I found nothing at CentOS web site :-( Do I miss anything?

There is no ETA, the CentOS team never gives one and they aren’t giving one for C8. This release has a lot of build structure unknowns, like appstreams, so there’s no telling how long it’ll take.

Re: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8 released

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what about ansible? how does it fit into the "only system installed python"?

Ansible the client, or the target? Ansible doesn't need anything installed on the target (except sshd). For the client which presumably would be installed explicitly on far fewer machines it would bring in whatever Python it needs. I don't know if it uses System Python or a module however since I don't have it installed on RHEL 8 right now.

Ansible does require that some flavour of Python is available on the target hosts. Without a Python interpreter, you're basically restricted to using the raw module (which, of course, you may use to bootstrap Python by invoking the package manager).

Still, I guess most people don't bother with that and just assume the presence of Python (at least on Linux, the bootstrap-using-raw approach is already required on FreeBSD and others).

https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/modules/raw_module.h...

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