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Re: Apple Q2 Results

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Post by erikpukinskis »

kkarakk wrote: post #112
__blockcipher__ wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. Apple is a very capital efficient company and already spends a tremendous amount on R&D. Just like the concept of the mythical man-month, the marginal utility of investing additional money in r&d goes down as r&d spend goes up. Or to put it a simpler way, Apple is running out of effective avenues to invest their money. The correct move in that situation is to return the capital to shareholders, and stock…

They're investing in R&D - except people on the outside can't see what. Keyboard,Notch,Airpower - where is the money going exactly? on the credit card? ipad is slimmer i guess They're not pinching pennies - except they're obviously pinching pennies across the board, no long cable in macpro box anymore, no headphone dongle in iphone box anymore, no extra tips in apple pencil case anymore etc etc.No product recall on t…

> where is the money going exactly?

120hz

Airpods, and the new embedded chips

AR, certainly an upcoming headset

A failed vehicle program

Others?

Re: Apple Q2 Results

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Post by erikpukinskis »

Godel_unicode wrote: post #119
__blockcipher__ wrote: post #96

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I think this is a totally naive viewpoint. Despite the memes, Airpods aren't just a mere status symbol (and as status symbols they are very poor ones, which I think is the whole joke about airpods => rich). What makes them incredible is their seamlessness. They do have occasional bluetooth fuckery but they felt like the first wireless earbuds that just worked^TM.

This is a very common take from people who have never used Bluetooth headphones before. I've had several sets of Bluetooth headphones and earbuds in the past, and they've been the same type of "just works" experience for me. Except better sound quality, and frequently water resistant. If you like the AirPods then that's great for you, but stop pretending they're some fantastic innovation over what came before, or tha…

It's not about fantastic technical advancements, so much as packaging new tech such that it could fit seamlessly in 100 million lives. That second part might not seem like a technical challenge, but it often is, in ways you might not immediately appreciate.

Re: Apple Q2 Results

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Post by kkarakk »

erikpukinskis wrote: post #121
kkarakk wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're investing in R&D - except people on the outside can't see what. Keyboard,Notch,Airpower - where is the money going exactly? on the credit card? ipad is slimmer i guess They're not pinching pennies - except they're obviously pinching pennies across the board, no long cable in macpro box anymore, no headphone dongle in iphone box anymore, no extra tips in apple pencil case anymore etc etc.No product recall on t…

> where is the money going exactly? 120hz Airpods, and the new embedded chips AR, certainly an upcoming headset A failed vehicle program Others?

120hz screens - made by samsung,they also sold to razer for their phone and htc i think

Airpods - a proprietary bluetooth stack that only runs well with apple devices, wow much r&d. They run well but samsung mostly replicated the proprietary bluetooth stack for their own earpod/works with galaxy only pairing solution.They also die in a year with average use so imo it's just more electronic fad garbage.

AR- vaporware currently to the point where they're talking about the credit card as a selling point. also AR in general is garbage on current gen devices. it's fun but it's not useful.

vehicle- failed.

Re: Apple Q2 Results

#124

Post by erikpukinskis »

kkarakk wrote: post #123
erikpukinskis wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> where is the money going exactly? 120hz Airpods, and the new embedded chips AR, certainly an upcoming headset A failed vehicle program Others?

120hz screens - made by samsung,they also sold to razer for their phone and htc i think Airpods - a proprietary bluetooth stack that only runs well with apple devices, wow much r&d. They run well but samsung mostly replicated the proprietary bluetooth stack for their own earpod/works with galaxy only pairing solution.They also die in a year with average use so imo it's just more electronic fad garbage. AR- vaporware…

Failed and vapor ware are a positive indicator in R&D. Failure and prototypes are a normal part of research.

Re: Apple Q2 Results

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Post by kkarakk »

erikpukinskis wrote: post #124
kkarakk wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

120hz screens - made by samsung,they also sold to razer for their phone and htc i think Airpods - a proprietary bluetooth stack that only runs well with apple devices, wow much r&d. They run well but samsung mostly replicated the proprietary bluetooth stack for their own earpod/works with galaxy only pairing solution.They also die in a year with average use so imo it's just more electronic fad garbage. AR- vaporware…

Failed and vapor ware are a positive indicator in R&D. Failure and prototypes are a normal part of research.

Is announcing things that are nowhere near completion as finished products coming soon and putting logos for them everywhere also a "normal part of research"?
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