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Major U.S. cancer center ousts ‘Asian’ researchers after NIH flags foreign ties

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>The new developments are linked to a sweeping effort launched last year by NIH to address growing U.S. government fears that foreign nations, particularly China, are taking unfair advantage of federally funded research.

Instead we let big pharma do it and charge a massive markup to fund their yachts eh?

Re: Major U.S. cancer center ousts ‘Asian’ researchers after NIH flags foreign ties

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I wonder why the headline says 'Asian' instead of saying Chinese, since all three researchers were Chinese with ties to China. As an ethic Indian, I'm kinda offended when all Asians are just lumped together as I believe it promotes general racism and bias against anyone from that continent .

Funny you say that because in the US, Indians are not considered Asians in practice even though of course South Asia is, well in Asia. I have seen many people argue that Asians only mean East Asians and does not include South Asians. However, the official census lumps all Asians together.

Asian in the US includes S. Asia, I think, popularly.

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I remember when I was young (+40 years ago), many Swiss private banks would only hire Swiss people. That rule was due to the French IRS equivalent having their own employees sent to Switzerland and hired by Swiss bank. They were mole transmitting confidential information about French clients. So these private banks had to restore trust and security. Honestly still today, for some critial jobs, I do not understand com…

It is racist to assume that someone’s place of birth determines their allegiances.

But is it true? Because speaking as someone living abroad, it's certainly true for me.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The people mentioned in the article are Americans. Also discrimination on the basis of ethnicity and national origin is illegal: https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/discrimination/ethnicdisc

But if other "Americans" (maybe even with dual citizenship) of the same ethnicity and background have a propensity to spy on behalf of their country of origin, then it seems reasonable to be extra careful with such individuals.

Still, the discrimination is illegal and violates human rights (also, modern societies do not have a notion of collective responsibility).

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You didn't mention what that utilization rate was, but it makes perfect sense to me. Using those cards so much gave the impression that you "needed" the credit line, even if you paid it off by the end of the month. If you have a $50k limit and spend $2k/month, paying off in full, it doesn't really impact your score much at all. If you have $1k limit and spend $500/month it's a big risk. You can usually make additiona…

Utilization rate is 0 if you pay off every month..

That’s not accurate, you can read more here: https://www.thebalance.com/understanding-credit-utilization-...

Re: Major U.S. cancer center ousts ‘Asian’ researchers after NIH flags foreign ties

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I wonder why the headline says 'Asian' instead of saying Chinese, since all three researchers were Chinese with ties to China. As an ethic Indian, I'm kinda offended when all Asians are just lumped together as I believe it promotes general racism and bias against anyone from that continent .

Totally agree.

As it is, Indian diversity is already lumped together into one nation. No one says European cuisine, European language, European culture etc when referring to something specific.

As a person from India, who lived more than a decade in the USA, I took quite some time to realize the following:

- We are not Asians even though India is in Asia. Asians are those who have the "oriental facial features".

- We are not Indians, because generally native Americans are referred to as Indians, and I realized only later that if I mention "native Americans" when someone refers to them as Indians, can be a little incorrect (politically) based on who says that.

- We are all "South Asians" when a terror attack occurs in developed countries (especially European counties).

- When there's something specifically negative pointed out about India, then it's clearly "Indians" and "India" (this point is limited to celebs and US/Eu media, not the general population that I have come across).

people if USA are used to be called Americans and not "USAians". I guess it's the same attitude towards other countries that leads to such usage of terms.

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