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Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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Post by comboy »

legitster wrote: post #9
clintonb wrote: post #5

> WikiLeaks cited the unidentified person as saying the planned expulsion is a response to the organization’s recent tweet linking to a website that alleged money laundering and corruption during Ecuadorian President Lenin Moreno’s time as United Nations special envoy for the disabled in Geneva. Foreign Minister Jose Valencia said last month that the government was “very surprised” by that and other actions by Assang…

There were all sorts of reports that he was a pretty taxing guest as well. Cleaning, hygiene, etc.

As Eric Weinstein put it, "we are standing on shoulders of jerks"[1]. I posted it already here once, but it is such a valuable insight that I think it's worth repeating.

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKeMIWVOnbo&feature=youtu.be...

Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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Post by bjoli »

black-tea wrote: post #52
vixen99 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which system do you have in mind and what's going to fall apart 'without the lies'?

I'll give you one example. France has recently made it illegal to do paternity testing. Someone clearly understands that without all the lies their population of single mothers would skyrocket.

To be clear: France has made private paternity testing illegal, while you can still do it through a court decision.

Still weird and the reasoning behind it seems backwards.

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Post by proee »

6nf wrote: post #118
proee wrote: post #106

When was Assange last actually seen or hear from? Some people think he isn't actually alive anymore and/or he's been taken away from the embassy for some time. What evidence do we have that he's actually still at the embassy?

He's done this many times, disappeared from the internet for a few weeks. This is the normal state of things. Nobody seriously thinks he's left the embassy already.

This is not a "few weeks." They took away his internet access years ago and before that he stopped sending his PGP keys. There has been no "proof of life" for a very long time.

Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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Post by cinquemb »

dragonwriter wrote: post #105
cinquemb wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>If you had an organization designed from it's inception to selectively leak information with a clearly biased perspective, it would defeat the purpose if you labeled it that way. For some reason, The Intercept comes to mind, and people here just love em…

I've always gotten the impression that people here mostly either disliked the Intercept for its perceived agenda or disliked it for it's perceived incompetence, such as that which burned Reality Winner as the source of the leak for which she was then imprisoned.

>I've always gotten the impression that people here mostly either disliked the Intercept for its perceived agenda

From my experience commenting on the meta stories surrounding them and alluding to the bias always seems to illicit more downvotes than up votes.

Though I would love if there was some kind of agreed upon sentiment analysis algorithm we could run we can go back through all of the meta Intercept posts on HN and calculate the percentage of comments weighted by upvotes for/agaisnt them as an organization.

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Post by JorgeGT »

imroot wrote: post #91

There's a live feed of the Ecuadorian Embassy -- I don't remember this happening in the last few expel "scares" (for lack of a better word). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6a9fgsTfBk

This is the actual live HD feed with audio, helpfully provided by our Russian friends from Ruptly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlqmKcPS0I8

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Post by idlewords »

dhruvparamhans wrote: post #102
GVIrish wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, Manning is in jail because Manning chooses to be in jail. Manning had an immunity deal to testify in front of a grand jury and refused to do so, leading to the contempt of court charge that currently has her in jail. She says she doesn't believe in the concept of being compelled to testify, which is fine, but the penalty for that is jail.

She is being held in solitary for 22 hours at a time. Isn't that a bit harsh for contempt of court?

Manning has been moved out of solitary confinement. https://thehill.com/homenews/437454-chelsea-manning-removed-...

Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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Post by idlewords »

sschueller wrote: post #44

Free Manning, free Assange and free Snowden. These 3 individuals have shown the world the corruption and criminal activity our governments engage in and no matter how hard they try to silence them, eventually the truth will show through.

Snowden and Assange are not being detained.

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Post by namdnay »

dragonwriter wrote: post #43
falcrist wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If nothing else, his persistence has been fairly impressive. I'm still bitter that he became so thoroughly partisan, though. Especially since his organization has or had the motto: "to publish fact-based stories without fear or favour".

> I'm still bitter that he became so thoroughly partisan, though. I don't think it's a matter of becoming partisan, I think it's more a matter of getting new opportunities for the orientation he's always had and pursued. > Especially since his organization has or had the motto: "to publish fact-based stories without fear or favour". If you had an organization designed from it's inception to selectively leak informati…

> designed from it's inception to selectively leak information with a clearly biased perspective

What was "biased" about the early wikileaks? It was a general repository of leaked documents uploaded and commented by users

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