Italy bans unvaccinated children from school

Post by AnimalMuppet » Mon, Mar 18, 2019, 10:34 PM UTC

bluGill wrote: post #56

zug_zug wrote: post #45

I find it interesting and also confusing how invested random people on the internet are about the outcome of vaccination (which could theoretically cause an issue for a small percentage of the population), as opposed to say climate-denial (which will undisputably cause a much bigger issue for the entire population)

I'm invested because I'm planning on having a kid. For the first year of my next kid's life there is no vaccine that can protect him/her from disease, except everybody else getting vaccinated.

Post by new_guy » Mon, Mar 18, 2019, 10:56 PM UTC

bryanlarsen wrote: post #90

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I agree. There are currently a lot of problems with vaccine development transparency and the chain of custody in handling of the vaccines is non existent. Yet someone is paying for this major social media propaganda push that anti-vaxxers are all low IQ deplorables who kill their own children. In parallel the fact that everyone should be forced to be vaccinated regardless of any other concerns is pushed as a sane rhe…

"Yet someone is paying for this major social media propaganda push that anti-vaxxers are all low IQ deplorables who kill their own children." Why would people be paying for this? There are probably millions of people out there who would be willing to say something similar without payment.

Post by irondruid » Mon, Mar 18, 2019, 11:35 PM UTC

chrisbennet wrote: post #122

irondruid wrote: post #112

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Quick Google Search: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22989339

“Reversible blindness in bilateral optic neruritis associated with nasal flu vaccine.“ Reversable - the tiny chance of a reversable condition vs contributing to the death of others. Can you be more selfish?

Post by CydeWeys » Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 12:39 AM UTC

puzzle wrote: post #126

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I have Italian relatives and I've heard a lot of questionable conspiracy theories or urban legends out of them. Things like all corner grocery stores that are run by Asians are really property of the Chinese mafia, or that if you have moving air on your throat at night you'll get a sore throat. Point is, take this kinds of conspiracy theories with a huge grain of salt. I would love to hear which required vaccinations…

It's bad enough that there's a word in the language (in English, it translates along the lines of "behindology") to refer to Italians' pseudoscience of looking for the actual story that hides BEHIND the apparent reality. Granted, it might be rooted in decades or centuries of lies, but it still boils down to conspiracy theories.

Post by RobertRoberts » Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 1:56 AM UTC

orbifold wrote: post #111

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> Why? The alternatives in pretty much all cases are death. This seems like a huge exaggeration to me. There's a chickenpox vaccine nowadays which wasn't widely available when I was a kid. As a result, my siblings and I all contracted chickenpox at one point or another. Chickenpox is only very rarely a serious illness for children. Even with regard to more serious illnesses that have been made rare by vaccination (me…

Some diseases are not a big deal for most children but can outright kill others. They are sometimes really dangerous to any adult and typically all kinds of immune compromised people. Herd immunity is in some cases the only way they can be protected.