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Re: Google .dev domain early access

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They explicitly mention letsencrypt as a free provider when you click the "Read this article" link.

It's not like they made any effort to make it visible, though. And "purchase" implies that the options they present are non-free. Which is interesting, I would expect Google to promote Lets Encrypt... Or do they assume devs already know about it?

They probably don't want to cause ill will by being partial to a particular CA, even if they're supporting it.

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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Does anyone know how the “premium” renewal prices are set and governed? I’m going through this right now with .app domains (also owned by Google). Apparently domains categorized as “premium” have a much higher yearly pricing, and how it’s priced is not specified anywhere on the registry website. I called a few registrars and they said that the premium pricing is set by the registry. What’s concerning is that the regi…

Are you saying the registry can arbitrarily change the .app domain renewal price without control, or that they can charge a different renewal price for different .app domains?

I've experienced weird price fluctuations with .io domain renewals in the past, but haven't owned one in a few years.

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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post #114

This "early-access" price which decreases over time is an approximation of a Dutch auction: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_auction Dutch auctions are incentive-compatible - they allocate the resource to the person that gains the highest utility for having it. Maybe Google got some of the people working on ads auctions to design this pricing structure.

Google has a long history with the Dutch auction, they used it in their IPO, back in '04.

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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> Honestly I don’t think it’s a cash grab for icann. Wasn't it $10k upfront to have your application for a new gTLD considered? This times ~1200 ... works out quiet good.

The application fee for a new tld is $185,000 not $10,000.

Oh, thanks, I must've had something else in mind. So it's a ~$220m deal for ICANN.

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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Google is such a big company, I find it bizarre they are trying to make money in this way. It would be interesting to know what they make at the end of the pre-sale.

>I find it bizarre they are trying to make money in this way.

Why not? If they charged a flat rate at launch, domain speculators would snatch up all the valuable domains and you'll have to buy it from them at an inflated price. At least with this system google is pocketing the premium rather than third parties.

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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post #85

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>Google Code. Also Wave and half a dozen chat apps, but Code was a serious one that broke a lot of the developer web. What did it break?

It hosted repos, and broke links to those repos and links within them. It also broke processes that relied on the repo, e.g. automatic issue creation in CI, but that's less serious. URLs that change without good reason are a PITA.

They have a process for setting up redirects. They also provide read only access to all public code AIUI:

https://code.google.com/archive/about

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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What will you build on .dev? A site so broken that it still has a horizontal scrollbar no matter how wide the browser window.

It renders without a horizontal scroll bar on my iPad 6g in either orientation

Shows up for me on firefox and chrome on windows. Also, safari (and maybe chrome on macos as well) doesn't show scrollbars unless you're actively scrolling, so it's easy to think there's no scrollbars.

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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post #74

I don't know how this stuff works, what gives google the ability to sell these domains early? Also why is everyone cursing google for taking their local .dev? Google is not the only place you can buy these. Namecheap has .dev in the works, and GoDaddy is taking pre-orders as well (I didn't keep searching but I'm sure it's available at many other registrars), but nobody is cursing and shaking their fist in the air at…

Google is the registry and not the registrar. That’s why they are ultimately responsible.

Oh ok, I see the difference now. Thanks!
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