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> over 12,000 GLOBAL VARIABLES How many global variables do each of Toyota's competitors have?
Does it matter if all your friends jump off a bridge? Toyota got caught with inexcusably bad software practices. There is a reason Chrylser, GM, Ford, and others are pushing it out of house to suppliers.
Toyotas and Chevys Are Holding Up Better Than Most Luxury Brands
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#122I think one thing to remember that people who buy a Toyota drive it like it's... a Toyota. Cars that are driven hard will break down faster than cars that aren't, and I'm guessing the average BMW is pushed harder than the average Toyota. My wife can put a hole in a pair of nice running shoes faster than I can even wear tread off of a junky pair. Use matters, not all miles are equal.
You're lying to yourself if you think that's the case.
Which part? The part that BMWs are driven harder than Toyota’s or that driving a car to its limits more often negatively affects its long term reliability?
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Given that a Lexus is a fancy Toyota, this doesn't surprise. I had it explained to me once by a MOT tester (a safety and emissions test in the UK that cars more than four years old must undergo annually) while my old Corolla was on the ramp that Toyota's process basically involves hardening parts from the last model for the most popular defects, with as little re-design work of the internal components between generat…
Toyotas are extremely reliably, especially in the long term. In the long term, toyotas beat anything out there even hondas.
A very different story in China. Chinese made Toyotas are horrid, possibly worst cars on the market, completely opposite of imported ones.
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Doesn't explain the Porsche tie with Toyota unless you're suggesting Porsche drivers are more like Toyota drivers than BMW.
porsche builds their cars for track work, so even hard driving around town is light load for them (maybe not the macan). Hard launches are among the toughest thing you can do to an ICE car. Most cars with launch control can do a few launches and then something overheats and the car refuses to do any more for a while. A car journalist tried to launch a PDK 911 until it failed. He got bored after 50 straight launches a…
Well, boredom and to commemorate the 911's 50th birthday.
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#125I think one thing to remember that people who buy a Toyota drive it like it's... a Toyota. Cars that are driven hard will break down faster than cars that aren't, and I'm guessing the average BMW is pushed harder than the average Toyota. My wife can put a hole in a pair of nice running shoes faster than I can even wear tread off of a junky pair. Use matters, not all miles are equal.
Doesn't explain the Porsche tie with Toyota unless you're suggesting Porsche drivers are more like Toyota drivers than BMW.
I’m not saying it’s the only factor just a single factor that people tend to overlook. But I think Porsche has a higher percentage of car enthusiast in addition to a higher quality build process. So the owners will take better care of the car, won’t drive it in poor weather etc, where a BMW is often a daily driver. Again, not saying it’s the factor just a factor. Like I just saw something that was “Here are states with the worst drivers” but the data was based on speeding tickets etc. So to me they should have really said “Here are the states with the most enforcement”. Ok, maybe not related at all.
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By that logic Toyota should of been Chinese 20 years ago?
Toyota has always been very frugal while delivering quality, Volvo was not, so no. And I think you meant 'have' instead of 'of'. See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Toyota_Way , pay extra attention to section #2. Volvo took a much more 'premium' route towards quality, starting with galvanized steel bodies and other such costly measures, as well as producing on less efficient lines than Toyota. Even so, their…
https://www.carcomplaints.com/Toyota/Corolla/2010/recalls/
I drive a 2010 Toyota Corolla :') - the philosophy sounds great but the implementation is poor.
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>Is anyone making reasonably well-appointed vehicles without throwing everything and the kitchen sink in there? No. Honda, Toyota, Fiat, GM, everyone seems to have the same problem. For what it's worth, FiatChrysler and GM have at least had the sense to set higher requirements for vendor/suppliers than Toyota. Specicially, after Toyota's "unintended acceleration" issues (mostly floor mats, some APPS/Pedal issues) it…
> over 12,000 GLOBAL VARIABLES How many global variables do each of Toyota's competitors have?
honestly, in the context of an embedded system, I'm not bothered by this.
I'd expect to see very little dynamic resource allocation, so you could probably put a permanent name to almost every byte of data in the system.
Remember, once it's compiled, everything's a global anyway, especially on chips small enough to not be set up with a strong multi-tasking and memory management model.
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But their truck frames are also legendary for rusting out -- a very expensive repair.
Are they anymore so than other cars driven where they salt the roads? I have not heard that.
Yes -- just search classified ads in northern states for Toyota trucks with new frames.
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#129I think one thing to remember that people who buy a Toyota drive it like it's... a Toyota. Cars that are driven hard will break down faster than cars that aren't, and I'm guessing the average BMW is pushed harder than the average Toyota. My wife can put a hole in a pair of nice running shoes faster than I can even wear tread off of a junky pair. Use matters, not all miles are equal.
Doesn't explain the Porsche tie with Toyota unless you're suggesting Porsche drivers are more like Toyota drivers than BMW.
Porsche began to copy Toyota's Production System a while ago and is now a leader in lean manufacturing. I know this sounds weird.
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Doesn't explain the Porsche tie with Toyota unless you're suggesting Porsche drivers are more like Toyota drivers than BMW.
Porsche began to copy Toyota's Production System a while ago and is now a leader in lean manufacturing. I know this sounds weird.
The story behind Porsche, Toyota, and how the Boxster came to be is pretty fascinating: https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/car-design/a28621/a...
If you look at CR's most reliable brands, it's Lexus, Toyota, Mazda, Subaru in that order. Funny coincidence that they're all Toyota affiliated.