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Microsoft’s Resurgence Under Satya Nadella

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Re: Microsoft’s Resurgence Under Satya Nadella

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Post by mixmastamyk »

duxup wrote: post #73
markbnj wrote: post #69

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I agree with you generally but it's not just the tiles. They also made a lot of changes around how settings and other features are accessed to make them more touch friendly, and if you're just trying to get in and change a thing it's often more work to get to it. There are ways to work around almost all of it but its just sort of ongoing evidence of a design direction that didn't really pan out for the mobile users i…

I actually like the settings changes. Fewer things on each screen and the search-ability is pretty great now.

Still have to dig several screens deep to access common settings. Still prefer the old-school control panel.

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Post by Ruxbin1986 »

Bamafan wrote: post #58
sonnyblarney wrote: post #48

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"Ballmer made several missteps:" Growing an already massive company company by 3x in revenue is the important thing, which is the 'bottom line' in which missteps have to be contextualized. Any company in tech is going to make mistakes, this should be happening, so listing them off doesn't so much help - what matters is how all of this works out in the mix. I worked in mobile during that time, it was vicious. Surely M…

> Growing an already massive company company by 3x in revenue is the important thing, which is the 'bottom line' in which missteps have to be contextualized. Yes, he managed to creatively squeeze revenue out of existing markets. This is what he was known for. But as far as finding new markets or growing existing markets, he failed and that's all Wall Street cares about. > Surely MS could have done better, but I view…

Where's that 80% figure?

As far as I am aware, the Beats acquisition was successful. They bought their streaming music model and put that into Apple Music.

Re: Microsoft’s Resurgence Under Satya Nadella

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Post by naikrovek »

bitwize wrote: post #38
partiallypro wrote: post #7

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How are they ruining Windows? People have been saying this since XP (before SP1 or SP2, when everyone hated it.) Yet there's not much evidence to support it...they are actually doing some really cool things with Windows now like adding bash and having different flavor Linux subsystems. The main issue I've had is some lack of quality control since they let go tons of testers and used Insiders instead. That has not eff…

Windows is subject to this sort of bizarre conservation of awesome. Any improvements in one area must be counterbalanced with an absolute shitshow in some other area. Windows 95 brought full 32-bit-ness to the average desktop, but it was a crashy buggy mess based on DOS that should have never existed because Windows NT was a thing. Windows 98 improved on Windows 95 in some ways, but introduced completely unnecessary…

A lot of those things you've cited are very nearly myths.

Windows 7's adoption of online-only functionality dwarfs XP's.

Vista and Windows 7 are extremely similar. I've easily fooled several Windows 7 die-hards that they were using Windows 7 while they were in-fact using Windows Vista. They are virtually the same operating system. Microsoft did the same in a series of television commercials.

Spyware and application telemetry are not the same thing. I don't know why I continue to beat this drum, though, it never sways anyone, facts be damned.

The suggestions (yes, they are arguably ads) are easily turned off and never return, and this setting syncs across devices logged into the same Microsoft account.

No operating system is perfect, and no company is perfect. Is there any other fucking massive tech company in the middle of a huge turnaround like Microsoft is? I can't think of any.

Yet, many people will always have a very special place in their heart for attacking Microsoft, and they'll never relent, no matter what Microsoft do.

I do NOT understand it.

Re: Microsoft’s Resurgence Under Satya Nadella

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Post by whatshisface »

stareatgoats wrote: post #85
Bamafan wrote: post #11

Long story, short: 1. Realize the world is moving beyond Windows 2. Cede mobile OS to Android/iOS, that battle is lost. 3. Realize, next great revenue stream is the Cloud (Azure).

To me it was more interesting to get a glimpse of Satya Nadellas thought process: > "as a CEO you need to create that continuous balance between the multiple constituents [that] is the real job" and > "Ultimately, if we don’t want to have a race to the bottom, we need to have some laws and regulations that govern how participants in the marketplace can make sure we don’t do things that have unintended consequences."…

>still, many leaders don't even seem to understand the benefit of putting such into words, let alone use it as guiding principles.

What you're looking at is a second-generation CEO. Nadellas was bred through the executive training program of an established organization, having received many two-day management courses, and he knows that an afternoon with the PR group is a good idea. This is in contrast to Gates and Balmer, which were first-generation "founder" CEOs.

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Post by coreypreston »

chiefalchemist wrote: post #47
Bamafan wrote: post #11

Long story, short: 1. Realize the world is moving beyond Windows 2. Cede mobile OS to Android/iOS, that battle is lost. 3. Realize, next great revenue stream is the Cloud (Azure).

Yeah, those help. But it was ultimately recognizing which pie was shrinking and which pie is growing - and is still growing. MS is a software company. Now that they've remembered that, it's producing results.

Microsoft takes earnest shots at hardware, it might not always work out but I appreciate the effort.

Long live the Zune!

Re: Microsoft’s Resurgence Under Satya Nadella

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Post by Ruxbin1986 »

Steve Ballmer, technical bits aside. Just couldn't play as a successful CEO in PR Role. He was too aggressive, abrasive and even somewhat rude.

Aside from that, one of thing most amusing things and one Ballmer excellent business moves was suing nearly every Android Smartphone Company for patent infringement. Microsoft literally makes money off of Android Smartphones but what's confusing to me is how Apple takes all of the flak.

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Post by techfoolery »

GVIrish wrote: post #109
nostromo wrote: post #87

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Microsoft includes a bunch of non-Azure products under their cloud revenue. And they do it to confuse people and falsely claim they're outpacing AWS, which as you just proved, works.

Why shouldn't Office365 be counted in cloud revenue? "Cloud Revenue" doesn't exclusive mean IaaS or PaaS.

Because SaaS isn't cloud computing. SaaS is essentially a fully available software application that you don't run on your own machines.

There's similarities, but key differences that you can easily look up to better understand. Hence part of why most aren't huge fans of including O365 to claim Azure's bigger than AWS.

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Post by Ruxbin1986 »

rjf72 wrote: post #77
sovnade wrote: post #10

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There are for sure features that I disagree with in Win10 like telemetry and automatic reboots while I'm using the computer (which has been resolved), but it's a far stretch to say they're ruining windows. I don't think I've ever had a full crash on my current Win10 box that I use daily. Driver issues are almost nonexistent. It does everything I need it to without issue. I'm not sure what else I would want from an OS…

How about not having spyware? I don't think we should use the word "telemetry" when we do actually mean spyware. Telemetry, in connotation, is data used for diagnostic, maintenance, and 'real' quality assurance. I opt-in to various forms of telemetry for a number of different pieces of software I use. I'm happy to help other developers create a better product. What Microsoft is doing goes far above any reasonable not…

So,

We don't know what data Microsoft is sending back but for whatever reason we've somehow concluded it must be incredibly invasive to the point where it's spyware?

If you are that concern with security. Use an air gaped device or don't even use electronic storage at all.

Or better yet just purchase Windows 10 Enterprise and turn all Telemetry off - which is entirely supported.

Re: Microsoft’s Resurgence Under Satya Nadella

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Post by nailer »

eknkc wrote: post #72
nailer wrote: post #39

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Windows is a pretty good kernel, GNU/Windows (aka WSL) effectively feels like Linux, with some drawbacks mainly NTFS being very slow (which Microsoft are aware of and working on - see https://github.com/Microsoft/WSL/issues/873#issuecomment-425... ).

Yeah I remember reading this particular comment when it was new. It mostly feels like “ok guys this is the best we get out of this” to me though. If they do not go with a different approach, the filesystem will always be an issue with WSL. I planned ditching my mac in favor of WSL. Due to MBP hardware issues and the fact that a git status would take 10x time drove me away. I wish it was good enough though.

Anyone tried ext3 or 4 on Windows?
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