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Russian Cosmonauts Say That the Hole in the Soyuz Was Drilled from the Inside

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Re: Russian Cosmonauts Say That the Hole in the Soyuz Was Drilled from the Inside

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Do you ever find yourself in the position whereyou are holding a brand new drill (for instance) in your hand, and you are just desperate to try it on something . I am the same with a new knife, something is going to get cut. Maybe this happened? "I wonder how well this drills aluminium, OMG it went right through"...pretend nothing happened. It is a bit like developers with a new js framework I suppose.

It's a good thing that with Blue Origin, Amazon can deliver new drills everywhere.

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Anyone have any good theories as to how this could have happened? Is it really plausible that it was "accidentally" drilled during manufacture, and not detected? I mean, surely there must be some kind of testing step where they test that the craft is completely airtight. And no one is going to be drilling anything after that point.

There is a limited number of possibilities 1. Done by a right handed person on space (crew) or on earth (builders/crew/other). 2. Done accidentally (a drill machine slips) or with a purpose. 3. The purpose can be seen as good or bad for the mission. The result here was neither good nor very bad, so can be neutral also. 4. A neutral purpose can still serve a role as a tool to alter the status of the cosmonauts either…

Shaving cream? Why?

Re: Russian Cosmonauts Say That the Hole in the Soyuz Was Drilled from the Inside

#123

So I was teaching a new guy on building some of the interior work on sailboats. I showed him how to drill a couple of holes through the fiberglass flange to mount something-or-other. Several hours later my boss asks me why there's two small holes in the hull. Well, I didn't specifically tell him not to drill through the flange, the cm of space, and through the whole hull.

I'm a smart person but when learning stuff I often feel really dumb because I ask what should be really obvious questions. It's some weird mix of ignorance and fear of doing it wrong in front of the boss. "So fasten x to y with a screw." "Do I drill through and into the workbench too?" "Why would you do that?!" (In my mind) well I saw someone else fastening a work piece to the bench temporarily like that and why woul…

I wonder if that's because a lot of tools (and software) are nowadays designed so that you can't make a mistake, or if you do, it's easily fixable.

Re: Russian Cosmonauts Say That the Hole in the Soyuz Was Drilled from the Inside

#124
post #48

Anyone have any good theories as to how this could have happened? Is it really plausible that it was "accidentally" drilled during manufacture, and not detected? I mean, surely there must be some kind of testing step where they test that the craft is completely airtight. And no one is going to be drilling anything after that point.

Well, it had been sealed with glue. So probably someone really did accidentally drill in the wrong place, sealed the hole with glue, and hoped nobody would notice. But then eventually thermal cycling borked the seal.

The astro/cosmonauts did it after the hole was discovered due to leaking air.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do like the Japanese, stop when you feel 80% full, let the brain catch on the the fact that you Are no longer hungry.

What if I feel 84% full?

You're getting down voted, but you make a good point.

I'm not sure what 80% full is either? Is it satiated rather than full?

Re: Russian Cosmonauts Say That the Hole in the Soyuz Was Drilled from the Inside

#126

Do you ever find yourself in the position whereyou are holding a brand new drill (for instance) in your hand, and you are just desperate to try it on something . I am the same with a new knife, something is going to get cut. Maybe this happened? "I wonder how well this drills aluminium, OMG it went right through"...pretend nothing happened. It is a bit like developers with a new js framework I suppose.

> pretend nothing happened Sure, but in the hull of the spacecraft that's leaking my air away, I'd still put a wad a chewing gum in the hole to patch it.

Well, the first temporary seal was Alexander Gerst's finger :)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do like the Japanese, stop when you feel 80% full, let the brain catch on the the fact that you Are no longer hungry.

What if I feel 84% full?

There is a known trick to get these 4% out.

Re: Russian Cosmonauts Say That the Hole in the Soyuz Was Drilled from the Inside

#129
post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a limited number of possibilities 1. Done by a right handed person on space (crew) or on earth (builders/crew/other). 2. Done accidentally (a drill machine slips) or with a purpose. 3. The purpose can be seen as good or bad for the mission. The result here was neither good nor very bad, so can be neutral also. 4. A neutral purpose can still serve a role as a tool to alter the status of the cosmonauts either…

Shaving cream? Why?

Sounds like a Jurassic Park reference (inside job / sabotage)

Re: Russian Cosmonauts Say That the Hole in the Soyuz Was Drilled from the Inside

#130

If the seal had remained, would the capsule have survived re-entry?

The hole was not in the part that reentered the atmosphere. Soyuz is made up of 3 modules: Orbital, Descent, and ISM. The hole was located on one of the modules that was jettisoned before deorbit.
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