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WordPress 5.0: A Gutenberg FAQ

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Re: WordPress 5.0: A Gutenberg FAQ

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Post by stevenicr »

surprised no one has mentioned the fork, https://www.classicpress.net/

I brought up similar issues times ago when WP was rolling out major changes that were likely to break things and not add any value to a majority of WP users. Glad to see enough others have banded together to actually make a good fork a serious option now.

I have already begun using a couple of plugins that convert WP sites to static html /css - so no updates needed, no more breaking things from auttomatic.

Unfortunately some of WP sites I'm running need to stay open to udpates regularly, fingers crossed I can revert them when the update rolls out.

Re: WordPress 5.0: A Gutenberg FAQ

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Post by newsbinator »

adevx wrote: post #27

I know this is not for everyone, but sometimes it makes sense to jump off the CMS bandwagon and build a custom site. First I used Drupal but got tired of rewriting the site on every major release and jumped on WordPress. Then on WordPress I realized I could not create the user experience I was after without committing massive amounts of time and resources in custom plugins/themes. Leaving me too dependent on a moving…

I've been using this exact structure too, via Nuxt: Node/Express + Vue on the front end (with templates written in pug via pug-loader).

The benefit is that I can use scoped CSS on any given article I write to better match its content. And writing in pug is, to me, equivalent to writing in Markdown.

I import in packages if/when I need them, instead of relying on a plugin ecosystem.

But this is not a CMS: it's me writing pug, compiling, and generating static pages.

If this were client-facing, I'd need to drop in a CMS/db. But since it's only me, this system has been ideal.

Re: WordPress 5.0: A Gutenberg FAQ

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Post by keepkalm »

stevenicr wrote: post #119
artichokeheart wrote: post #24

The big problem with 5.0 is that it's not actually ready and they are shipping because of Wordcamp. There are 152 open issues that they conveniently allocated 1 to 5.0, 28 to 5.0.1 and the rest to future point releases. https://make.wordpress.org/core/2018/12/06/5-0-gutenberg-sta... The introduction of Gutenberg is a huge change and yes if you've been following the development, you're probably ready for the major cha…

"if you weren't following along you're in for a nasty, buggy, surprise. " this scares me and may bring tears. I don't have time to backup all the sites I have with custom themes and plugins. Hope someone writes a tutorial on how to undo this update, including the database and change over to the class press fork.

Yeah, I think it deleted all my plugins this morning. Yay.

Re: WordPress 5.0: A Gutenberg FAQ

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Post by spraveenitpro »

GeneralMaximus wrote: post #14

I know a lot of people dislike PHP and WordPress, but I haven't found _anything_ that comes close to it in terms of sheer extensibility and plugin ecosystem. There's a plugin for pretty much anything you might want to do with a platform. I even moved my personal Jekyll-powered blog to WordPress a few years ago. My favorite thing about WordPress is that it's a known quantity. There's an easy to follow tutorial teachin…

Gutenberg Rocks!!

Re: WordPress 5.0: A Gutenberg FAQ

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Post by willio58 »

calibas wrote: post #48
josefresco wrote: post #39

As someone who hosts over 150 WordPress websites for small businesses ... I'm not thrilled about this release and the work it will entail given the editor overhaul. Another user posted this: https://make.wordpress.org/core/2018/12/06/5-0-gutenberg-sta... Also this posted by the author of Advanced Custom Fields, a very popular plugin: https://twitter.com/wp_acf/status/1070089217479307264

Supposedly, you just install this and you're good to go: https://wordpress.org/plugins/classic-editor/ I just tried updating to 5 on a test copy, as far as I can tell it didn't break anything.

For as long as that plugin is supported..

Re: WordPress 5.0: A Gutenberg FAQ

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Post by weci2i »

mmaunder wrote: post #120
AustinG08 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My answer to this problem has been the plugin Wordfence. It's primary feature is a WAF whose rules update continuously and intercepts every request. Having worked at several agencies I've seen and inherited many hacked sites. I have never had a site be infected with a clean install using Wordfence. knocks on wood

Wow. Founder here. Thank you!

I'm a lone developer in a marketing agency. I manage hundreds of WordPress sites. Some are my own work, many are not. As someone who has inherited more than his fair share of compromised sites, thank YOU! WordFence is the immediate fix for 99% of the hacks I see. It stops malicious activity in its tracks until I can patch the issues. There are simply no other plugins even close to the quality of WordFence.

Re: WordPress 5.0: A Gutenberg FAQ

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Post by hrrsn »

willio58 wrote: post #125
calibas wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Supposedly, you just install this and you're good to go: https://wordpress.org/plugins/classic-editor/ I just tried updating to 5 on a test copy, as far as I can tell it didn't break anything.

For as long as that plugin is supported..

2022 at the earliest.

Re: WordPress 5.0: A Gutenberg FAQ

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Post by tonyb »

joekrill wrote: post #15
GeneralMaximus wrote: post #14

I know a lot of people dislike PHP and WordPress, but I haven't found _anything_ that comes close to it in terms of sheer extensibility and plugin ecosystem. There's a plugin for pretty much anything you might want to do with a platform. I even moved my personal Jekyll-powered blog to WordPress a few years ago. My favorite thing about WordPress is that it's a known quantity. There's an easy to follow tutorial teachin…

You're absolutely right. The big issue (for me, at least), is that it's a security nightmare. At least last I used it. It seemed there were security exploits popping up every day. Either from the core codebase, or from some random plugin everyone seemed to be using. I think that was just the nature of how their plugin system works? I'm not sure if anything's changed, but _maintaining_ a WordPress install is not fun a…

I used to do sysadmin work as a web hosting company and security nightmare is exactly the phrase I think of when I think of WordPress.

Many mom and pop type businesses find the lowest cost web designer they can find to build them a WordPress site then get upset with the hosting company when "the server gets hacked" and their site is redirecting to a malicious site.

WordPress is certainly a powerful platform but the fact that it is so easy for someone to get started is also a weakness because those people don't understand it isn't just set it and forget it.

Re: WordPress 5.0: A Gutenberg FAQ

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Post by chiefalchemist »

photomatt wrote: post #64
dazc wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jetpack has some nice features, the comments form especially. It is, however, very bloated - especially since you'll often only use 2 or 3 features on any one site.

Since Jetpack code is also what we run on WP.com (tens of billions of pageviews) it goes through a huge amount of performance tuning and optimization. The way modules work when you turn them off they don't have any overhead, similar to turning off a plugin. If you were using literally one thing it might feel like a lot, but as soon as you use 2-3+ things Jetpack does it's a lot more efficient than separate individual…

Can you give a couple examples of when / how Jetpack has to be a single plugin, instead itself being a suite of individual plugins?

If the knock on that product is bloats, and the compromises adoption, how is X a benefit to those who refuses to abopt the whole alphabet?

Re: WordPress 5.0: A Gutenberg FAQ

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Post by chiefalchemist »

I updated a test sight to 5.0. I activated Gutenburg. I played with the blocks. I looked for - having just done some Shopify work for a friend - a way in WP to preview page (while on desktop) that simulated mobile. Again, like Shopify.

Afaik there is no such preview. I'm aware "the WordPress way" is fond of turning its back on industry standards. But ignoring "mobile first"? If the dev team missed that, what else did they miss?

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